Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5
[Re: yukonjeff]
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07/19/12 08:49 PM
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It is more likely the age of the reds. Believe it or not different age classes return each year, some years there are more older fish and in some river systems the fish return at an older age than others as well. So if there is a strong return of fish 5 yr old fish vs 3 or 4 yr old fish you will see more large fish especially if they are 1.4 fish which are those that spent only 1 yr in fresh water and 4 in the salt vs 2.2 fish and are those that spent 2 yrs in fresh water and 2 in the salt.
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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5
[Re: white17]
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07/20/12 01:14 AM
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It seems that the second run kenai reds are always bigger. And of those big ones they look different. People call them bluebacks. They have larger scales and they are darker blue then the typical light green.
I have been told those "bluebacks" are thought to spawn and rear in Skilak lake, not Russian river lake or the kenai lake.
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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5
[Re: white17]
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07/20/12 09:08 AM
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Was always told the first run were mostly Russian River reds that due to the river tend to run smaller so they can breed. The bigger fish and most of the second run are Kenai reds that spawn and rear in Kenai Lake, then also spend time in Skilak Lake before heading out. They are bigger when they leave the river to the salt water, and so get bigger in the ocean and have a better survival rate.
Otterman is also right. Most of the biggest fish are 5 year olds. Seems to be a big year for 5 year olds as well as my son just got back from SE and they were seeing much larger reds there than in the past. I am curious how they are looking in the bay, but haven't talked to my brother-in-law yet.
Could be this is a bad year for Kings returning, but could be a great year for reds.
-TJ
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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5
[Re: white17]
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07/20/12 10:57 AM
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Just think how big those 7,8,9,10 year old Kings are going to be when they finally show up. If I remember right the majority of our reds are 2.2. They run kind of small.
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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5
[Re: white17]
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07/20/12 12:38 PM
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Interesting to hear the reds in the Kenia run small and the lake bound fish run big here it is the opposite for the most part the bigger fish are found in the Nushagak/ Koktuli/ Mulchatna and spawn there and the smaller ones in the Wood River spawn in the lower Tikchik lake system.
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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5
[Re: white17]
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07/23/12 11:35 PM
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Now that does look good!!!
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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5
[Re: white17]
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07/24/12 11:39 AM
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Those looks good! We made 90 percent of our strips from Red's also.
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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5
[Re: UgashikBob]
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07/24/12 01:35 PM
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YJ: Curious how you prepare your strips? No Kings for us this year but made our strips from Sockeye. Real simple recipe..just dipped in a salt brine and cold smoked with dry alder and dry cottonwood. I get more fancy with my hot smoked stuff, like maple syrup and brown suger with other spices.
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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5
[Re: white17]
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07/25/12 11:45 PM
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Gonna be busy come fall! Mt. Goat permit, a fly in deer hunt in Oct. and an AZ Mule deer tag for Nov. Gonna do some coyote calling in AZ while there too. I'll miss the first couple of days of trapping season but I plan to hit it hard when I get back. Life is good!
What do you folks have cooking?
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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5
[Re: white17]
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07/26/12 01:15 AM
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And let their red blood cell count come up! I don't like to hunt the early deer here because of the dang bugs. I would imagine they are ferocious up there in August!
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