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City animal control #3271400
08/13/12 01:26 PM
08/13/12 01:26 PM

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There is a city animal control trying to block or steal a job from me. I don't want to give details on here. They met with the owners and said I'm incapable to perform the task that I was called to do. LOL. How legal is this for them to do that? I thought that any municipality can't do this to the private secture. I think there feelings were hurt that this major corp hired me and not them.

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Re: City animal control [Re: ] #3271426
08/13/12 01:42 PM
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Now just do the job quickly and efficiently and prove that they didn't know what they were talking about. News travels fast and others will soon know of their tactics and your abilities.


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Re: City animal control [Re: ] #3271457
08/13/12 02:07 PM
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Paul,

As far as them slandering you, that would be a clear legal deal no matter who is involved, but as far as them taking the work.
The question you must find out is what is their scope and if it includes legally what they are doing, they aren't in the wrong.
Out here, Animal control does some things and not others, while the state does some and not others and the feds do some
and not others, if its in their legal regulatory or designated need by the city you are talking about, its a policy issue, and could
be tough to change.

Interested to know more details not about the cities name or specifics on that but what species and the conflict you had.

justin

Re: City animal control [Re: ] #3271703
08/13/12 04:40 PM
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Well the city inspector was called out and said that your traps will not work and you need poison . Then said to shove poison down the holes . You said its not legal to poison in a open manner . Is that what happened ? . That happened to me two weeks ago on a rat job
, funny part was poison had been out for weeks before I got there . Root of the problem the human and dog food needs to removed so the other rats stop coming . I trapped one and two took its place . I would patch a hole in the concrete block and they would just chew a new one . I was so happy when I got fired off that job . Why would you keep 3 gallons of greese under your kitchen sink in a rat infested east detriot


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Re: City animal control [Re: ] #3272161
08/13/12 09:02 PM
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It is easy for me to be an armchair QB. Walk away from jobs that make you the problem.

Re: City animal control [Re: ] #3272516
08/13/12 11:56 PM
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I don't know about other areas but our city animal control is really for the county. his job description only allows him to deal with domestic dog cats things like that he's is not allowed to deal with wildlife it not in his job description. I and other controllers in my area get referrals from him all the time. Just call the city and ask them what his job entails him to Handel.

Re: City animal control [Re: dew] #3272532
08/14/12 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted By: dew
I don't know about other areas but our city animal control is really for the county. his job description only allows him to deal with domestic dog cats things like that he's is not allowed to deal with wildlife it not in his job description. I and other controllers in my area get referrals from him all the time. Just call the city and ask them what his job entails him to Handel.
I would be hitting that guy with some green cash in a brown bag Dew .


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Re: City animal control [Re: ] #3272535
08/14/12 12:08 AM
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Paul,

I've come to despise most of those municipal "animal control" folks. They are not CO's. As far as I'm concerned a Municipal outfit should not be given the job of being a caretaker of wildlife. The MNR should dictate how wildlife is dealt with. A licensed Trapper is superior to a "animal control" officer imo.
Most of the time they do more harm than good.

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Originally Posted By: dew
I don't know about other areas but our city animal control is really for the county. his job description only allows him to deal with domestic dog cats things like that he's is not allowed to deal with wildlife it not in his job description. I and other controllers in my area get referrals from him all the time. Just call the city and ask them what his job entails him to Handel.


EXACTLY!!!!
I like the way that county works!

Re: City animal control [Re: ] #3273126
08/14/12 12:35 PM
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What Justin says. Regardless of any advice given here, are you qualified/licensed in your municipality to do the work specified here; likewise, are the ACO's qualified?
By definition, work done by the city is "free" (tax-funded), so it has the huge advantage of not seeming to cost the customer. Vector work (rats, mosquitoes) is often done in creeks/right-of-ways on private property in the name of community health.
Slander is hard to prosecute, but if you lose work because of it, a letter from you or your lawyer to the bosses, and the bosses' bosses, of the offending parties should put a stop to it.

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Originally Posted By: Dave Schmidt
What Justin says. Regardless of any advice given here, are you qualified/licensed in your municipality to do the work specified here; likewise, are the ACO's qualified?
By definition, work done by the city is "free" (tax-funded), so it has the huge advantage of not seeming to cost the customer. Vector work (rats, mosquitoes) is often done in creeks/right-of-ways on private property in the name of community health.
Slander is hard to prosecute, but if you lose work because of it, a letter from you or your lawyer to the bosses, and the bosses' bosses, of the offending parties should put a stop to it.


Slander is hard to prosecute. In Europe I know that if you use slander to injure someone (i.e. attack their character, abilities e.t.c.) you could take them to court for an "unprovoked insult".
Laws are different though here in N.A.
Slanderers seem to get away with it unless you can prove it is ongoing and you might be able to have a criminal harrassment charge laid on them if you're lucky.

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Re: City animal control [Re: Peskycritter] #3273824
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Originally Posted By: Peskycritter
Originally Posted By: dew
I don't know about other areas but our city animal control is really for the county. his job description only allows him to deal with domestic dog cats things like that he's is not allowed to deal with wildlife it not in his job description. I and other controllers in my area get referrals from him all the time. Just call the city and ask them what his job entails him to Handel.
I would be hitting that guy with some green cash in a brown bag Dew .




I get the sheriff office and central dispatch (911) donuts every now and then LOL just a little some thing for referrals.lol

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