gm crate motor are only 3110...(plus install of 16000)... 3 year 100,000 warranty...lol,,,,,,,,bummer

Dave! Who charges 16K to install a motor????????

I'll do it for 1/2 that, and pay my own way out there!

ps-Can I wait till the steelhead run?

Speaking of new trucks, my son wants a new vehicle, preferably a pick-up. Let's have some opinions, especially about gas mileage.

Paul he needs a Toyota. Reliable and good on gas!

type oooo,,,, 1600.......

The new dodge ram is now best in class for gas mpg that's what the ad says

New Tacoma. Will out live all others. Very dependable. Low to mid 20 mpg. Best features and options of all trucks i have looked at. 110 volt outlet in the bed.

Is that for the truck you got recently?

Do the Tacomas fuel mileage drop significantly after putting on a ladder rack, ladders, cap if you use one, all the equipmen, etc...?

Good question Tyson, I've been looking at the Tacomas. ( They come the closest to my 26MPG in my Transit Connect )

In my experience all vehicles loose mileage with excess weight and add ons.

Yes, I'm aware they drop when weight is added, significantly was the key word there. I have a 2011 Gmc sierra half ton 4 door that used to get about 19-21 HIGHWAY mpg. After the cap, ladder rack, 4 ladders, tools, traps, misc items, etc...I now get around 17 highway. My overall average went from 16.8 down to 14.6. Not all that bad when all factors are taken into consideration.

Paul. We have 2 Dodge 2011/2012, 1500, 4 door, 4x4's and a 2011, 2500, 4 door 4x4. Loaded with equip. , ladder racks, caps with 32' and 16' on each we get around 15 city and 17 highway. The 2500 is a diesel.

Tacoma is what I've narrowed my search down to. I wish they would make a small truck with at least a 7 foot bed. A bunch of 3 foot coon cages takes up a lot of room and I've had my Ranger stacked on the roof and a bumper carrier with cages. It kind of looked like THE GRAPES OF WRATH all I needed was a crate of chickens on top and Ma Jode sitting next to me. It still bothers me that I'm thinking about a rice burner truck, it's almost as bad as joining PETA.

I'm driving a 2010 Tacoma 4D, 4WD, 6' bed. With topper, ladder rack/ladders, tools/materials/traps it averages 15-16 mpg.

My 1999 F250 7.3 diesel has been extremely dependable. It has 418,000 miles and still has the original transmission (I probably just cursed myself). My F150 before that (gas)had 365,000 when I sold it. I have a 99 GMC Sonoma (3 tarannies), 2010 F150 that we like, and a 2010 Chevy Silverado. The guys don't like the Chevy, it rides too smooth and they each have got tickets driving it!!!!

Don't bash the Toyota as a foreign job though. It has the most domestic parts of any truck and is built in the US.

Tom Walters, thanks for your honesty.

John, we have a 2010 F150 with 4WD and I tried the 4 wheel drive once to see if it worked. I can't imagine buying another one to travel on plowed and salted roads. ( Although I guess if you had a rough winter in Nashville, you 4WD guys might be the only ones on the road )

Dirk, nobody up here pushes diesel but since you've had a pretty good variety of almost everything, what would you buy in the line of pickups? ( Price is no option, gas mileage is )

It still says 'yota on it and all the profits go back to Jap-land, I guess that's what bothers me.

Paul as far as 4WD here it's mandatory, I probably use/need mine at least once a month even during the summer. We did a deck exclusion last week that was 5 miles up a jeep trail and it rained while we were up there. We camped on sight for two days, if we had tried to leave it would have been a 4WD only slide out of the mountains. Who's this Walters guy?

Dave, I don't know this for a fact, but I'm willing to wager that a decent amount of those profits go to intelligent people who invested in Toyota and are Americans. Even if I'm wrong, the amount that goes to the people running and working at the Toyota plants is far greater than the profits.

I guess a good example would be our own company. Out of every dollar made comes employee wages ( the largest amount ) then come expenses ( insurance, gas, repairs, vacations, etc. ) then comes overhead, secretarial, management, business supplies; after all of this, what's left is profit. If you're a one-man show, the percentage of profits will be much higher because you will watch every penny. Employees don't care, even if they get profit sharing. I know because I was one.

P.S. Tom Walters is hvtrapper and he was honest about is gas mileage. ( One of our guys puts $100 in his tank every other day )