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Obamacare avoidance #3412362
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FYI: Veterans enrolled in the VA medical system are considered covered, and do not have to enroll in the obamacare program. You can do this at any VAMC.


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Remember Bowe Bergdahl, the traitor.

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Re: Obamacare avoidance [Re: BigBob] #3412861
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Since everyone else was too busy running to their VAMC to thank you, let me take this oppurtunity Big Bob; THANKS!

Re: Obamacare avoidance [Re: BigBob] #3412873
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All ya'll are quite welcome, that's why we're here!


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Remember Bowe Bergdahl, the traitor.

Beware! Jill Pudlewski, Ron Oates and Keven Begesse are liars and thiefs!
Re: Obamacare avoidance [Re: BigBob] #3412943
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I will be calling tomorrow to make sure I am still enrolled.

Re: Obamacare avoidance [Re: BigBob] #3413037
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Been enrolled since 2006 . VA Medical benefits are one of few things I can say government has exceeded my expectations. I pray they don't change a thing to make our care more like Obama Care.


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Re: Obamacare avoidance [Re: BigBob] #3414104
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you mean.... you guys want FREE healthcare from the government???? whistle i thought you were against that?

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FREE????? My tired aching Butt!
Every Vet has EARNED it. Approx 25%of the Male population.


Every kid needs a Dog and a Curmudgeon.

Remember Bowe Bergdahl, the traitor.

Beware! Jill Pudlewski, Ron Oates and Keven Begesse are liars and thiefs!
Re: Obamacare avoidance [Re: BigBob] #3414140
11/09/12 11:16 AM
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At one time welfare patients care far exceeded your VA benefits. I belive that has changed. I have yet to hear my son complain about the care he has recieved,

I have heard so much about the Obama care- for instance it is going to cost companies 800-2500 per employee "fine" ... Then the other day I heard it only pertained to companies with 50 or more employees ... then I have heard that part time employees have to be covered

All I know for sure right now is that it is scaring the heck out of me...

Think about it - if you have 6 employees including yourself and you have to pay 3000 per employee fine at the begining of 2014 ... when it all kicks in...

Thats 18 grand ..

Now I dont know about you guys.... but I dont have that and starting 2013 I will have to raise my prices on average of 50 dollars per ticket ... so by January of 2014 ... I have the 18 grand needed to pay the goverment




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Re: Obamacare avoidance [Re: wiggler] #3414199
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Originally Posted By: wiggler
you mean.... you guys want FREE healthcare from the government???? whistle i thought you were against that?


Wiggler

WE actually earned that. We are entitled to it like many US Dept of Defense veterans .

We paid for it by protecting your rights to FREEDOM. There was nothing FREE about it either.

I just think it should be earned and not given away EZ like a cheap date on drugs.

I believe every man or woman should actually serve this nation when given the opportunity . I don't think we owe spineless twits
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anything but a swift kick in the Arse !!

I also believe military service is a excellent path to US citizenship instead of a good pair of walking shoes.

Its also a shame our government did not protect our solder's right to vote overseas . Anything is OK as long as its for the D. http://www.washingtonguardian.com/ballot-buck-passing.

For the record the election was not a mandate it just proved we are outnumbered by too many ignorant morons.

To my fellow Veterans thank you for your service

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Re: Obamacare avoidance [Re: BigBob] #3414525
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now wait a minute.... first its spineless twits ?? and your talking about the guy who you guys voted for that would never go into the service? did you do you 20-30 years of service? I do thank you for your service to this country... i never thought any different. BUT... if you were wounded or suffered injury while your time is service... than H-Yes you should have full benefits for the rest of your life.. But if you went in and did 2-4 years of service and walked out with all your limbs etc... why should you get free insurance for the rest of your life? Isnt that entitlement? Im not knocking what you guys did... im asking a simple question. were having a discussion not a fight.. its like the senators who get voted in and work 4 years and than are ENTITLED to full benefits for the rest of their lives.

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I have the highest regard for anyone that served to defend this country, regardless of the quantity of time. Taking a risk should be rewarded. As a service man, that risk is with your life. As a business man, that risk is your capital. Risk is rewarded.

Re: Obamacare avoidance [Re: wiggler] #3414698
11/09/12 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted By: wiggler
now wait a minute.... first its spineless twits ?? and your talking about the guy who you guys voted for that would never go into the service? did you do you 20-30 years of service?


No respect for service connected injuries .. it figures !!

I did 16 years, 7 monthes and one day honorably, and did everything my country asked me too.

I had a medical insurance company call today and ask what my companies plans are for medical insurance and I told them it is now company policy to only hire VA enrolled Veterans. She hung up.

FYI this is what spineless twits liberals now think about Veterans and of those serving now in our armed forces .



Obama administration seeks to dramatically cut health benefits for active duty, retired military while not touching union worker's benefits.

http://www.examiner.com/article/obama-to...t-union-workers


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Re: Obamacare avoidance [Re: BigBob] #3414744
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seems.. you forget about the other spineless twit... the one who got FIRED!!!! seems his whole family crap their pants to stay out of the service... but anyway... i say it again Robb.. thanks for all you did for this country. i never said this as an attack on you or anyone else who served. just a Entitlement question. and i believe the republicans voted down the jobs bill for vets.. I know.. they didnt think of it first... so they HAD to vote it down. i think they said... vets already have enough.. and THAT spineless twit is your commander and chief. show some patriotic support.

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Re: Obamacare avoidance [Re: BigBob] #3415062
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My son served only 3 years and came back injured ... he cant work, with his life expectency shortend considerably

Would you deny him health insurance the rest of his life... would you deny him or his family the benefits he currently recieves

He did whst he had to do... and he did it no matter what the cost was

He is not the only one .. I suspect Robb and other veterns share the same traits as my son does...

What amazes me is how you can be so quick to take that away from our people that would willingly take a bullet just to protect your freedoms

If you want to pick on anyone... pick on the NYS teachers or the union members that have life time Bene's....They somehow were able to recieve a kings ransom and never have to shed on ounce of blood for it


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Re: Obamacare avoidance [Re: BigBob] #3415159
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Once there is an agreement between you and the government, as long as you fulfill your part of the agreement the government needs to do the same.

In the future though, as fiscal austerity becomes even more necessary, I doubt we will be seeing this kind of benefit offered. Same with the retirement programs. The people just can't afford it any more.

I think soldiers wounded in action will always be taken care of and rightly so but the other lifetime bennies are going to be a thing of the past pretty soon.

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Originally Posted By: sgs
Once there is an agreement between you and the government, as long as you fulfill your part of the agreement the government needs to do the same.

In the future though, as fiscal austerity becomes even more necessary, I doubt we will be seeing this kind of benefit offered. Same with the retirement programs. The people just can't afford it any more.

I think soldiers wounded in action will always be taken care of and rightly so but the other lifetime bennies are going to be a thing of the past pretty soon.


yup..

Re: Obamacare avoidance [Re: wiggler] #3415277
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Originally Posted By: wiggler
and THAT spineless twit is your commander and chief.


He is not my or your Commander In Chief . He was the Commander In Chief of Spc. Ryan P. Jayne, of Campbell, N.Y., at Dover Air Force Base, Del., Nov. 6, 2012.

Spc. Ryan P. Jayne was assigned to the 178th Engineer Battalion, 412th Theater Engineer Command, Oswego, N.Y.


While we all voted Tuesday his family was doing last minute plans for his burial.

If Sp Jayne survived he would of been entitled to VA Medical care & other benefits even though he did not retire and just got hurt on the job.



I served under four Commanders in Chief [CINC] who all served in uniform during World War Two.

Ford, Carter, Reagan and Bush I. All four of these Commanders in Chief knew US Flag Code etiquette long before they ever stepped into public service.

They honestly had the training and background to be a CINC. Some more then others <grin>

Not one of these four CINC's would of ever took claim for the raid and death to Osama either.




and I bet you don't see anything wrong with this picture either !!

All four of them should of been standing at attention with their eyes in front of them per US Flag Code etiquette when the National Anthem, was being played.

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I pay a outside company to secure this forum out of my own pocket.

To an outsider we would appear to be a bunch of angry white men and we are not that. haha

We have lots of brothers, latinos and people from every walk of life who have served .

America's oldest continuously serving Cavalry Regiment since the 1830's . My home town Fort White Florida is connected to the earliest days history of the regiment. Back then it was the largest US settlement in Indian Country with a population of about 36,000 military and civilians back then and less then 800 today.

TOUJOURS PRET - ALWAYS READY!

I have honestly lost track of how many times [12-16] we have sent these boys serving in our same military units today with frequent tours in Iraq and Afghanistan even Desert Storm..

We bend over backwards for our Cav Troopers who serve today or have served yesterday.

We help create scholarships for their families.

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I have a gf 100% disabled and service connected vet. Since Sep 29th she has died and was brought back to life in a VAMC twice. Some of us are still paying for that benefit and right to medical care.

I spent 3 hours at Gainesville VAMC today getting her meds straight with the Pharmacy for the 37 meds she takes a day to stay alive. Anyone who ate with Rick Federation, Ron Jones after hours at the Rondi at Fuller's Catfish House has met her.

You want a humbling experience spend a day talking to and helping vets at any VAMC. You will find many guys and gals who got hurt on the job and did not retire that need our help. All of them are still paying for that price of FREEDOM long after their uniform comes off.

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Re: Obamacare avoidance [Re: Critterman] #3415456
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Originally Posted By: Critterman
He is not the only one .. I suspect Robb and other veterans share the same traits as my son does...

What amazes me is how you can be so quick to take that away from our people that would willingly take a bullet just to protect your freedoms


Some of you guys just don't get it. It is not just a job its a total invasion of any normal life growing up back home near mom & dad.

It was dangerous to be any American overseas and not just a soldier in Europe during the Terrorism Days of the 70's and 80's. I knew more about the Bader Meinhof Gang and the German Red Army on a daily basis then I knew about my own hometown in Florida far away.

My then kindergartner "Robby" went to school at a bus stop and rode a bus with armed soldiers with automatic weapons. He was taught not to go in public without the protection of a armed guard.

Back then terrorists would find a lone GI male or female and kill them for their military ID to be used later to blow up a Army Barracks or a club frequented by the military.

Duty called I left my family in harms way and then seen nine countries before I came back home to them again in our German home overseas. By the time I returned my son was taught it was OK to go to school with out armed guards like normal children with one exception Dad was gone too much. The threat of chemical weapons use in the middle east and the nuclear accident in Chernobyl made for some interesting duties including dismantling our own chemical inventory in Europe.

Back then the TV said the US Army was not a job it was an adventure. My own family as civilians, my then five year old son paid a bigger price then those who feel they know what is better benefits for this countries finest.

I meet veterans with similar or even different experiences all the time.

Oh yeah I have had pneumonia 3 times myself since August this year.



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Well said, " Freedom is never Free ".

Heard that many times but when said by one who paid a price, it has weight.

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