Re: Cage Trapping Beaver
[Re: Nathan Krause]
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11/20/12 09:10 AM
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Dulling pictures,,,,,,,,,LOVE IT.....keep up the good work!
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Re: Cage Trapping Beaver
[Re: Nathan Krause]
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11/20/12 10:00 AM
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Jim, I mentioned that castor is sometimes a detriment... and should be used sparingly on certain jobs... What I was bringing up was the less territorial essential oil of birch and popple many times out perform a castor based lure.
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Re: Cage Trapping Beaver
[Re: Nathan Krause]
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11/23/12 06:30 PM
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So Wednesday we finally got this beaver job started. I set the cage and tried to dig up some mud and of course the river in front of the house had no mud. So I had to go get mud from another part of the river and bring it in. This morning I show up and look who was waiting for me. Very happy to see it only took 48 hours to cage trap my first beaver. Now we just got 5 more to get.
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Re: Cage Trapping Beaver
[Re: Jim Comstock]
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11/30/12 08:04 AM
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330 is right on when it comes to castor as a deterrent when beaver get wised up to it. They will avoid it completely, never go near a set with castor of any kind if they have been pinched or may have seen several beaver caught at a castor set. Having different castor lures works well on beaver if you are catching and have not had a problem with a sprung trap, but if they are wised up, anything with castor in it, any brand or batch will have the same negative effect, a huge deterrent.
I do have some birch and poplar bud oil, but have not used them much, relying on castor or blind sets most of the time. I have a bottle of Bob Wilson's green beaver lure and have used a little food lure, but again have not used it much or had great luck when I did so can not definitively say if it is good or not. Wondering if there is some kind of food elixir someone has used outside of castor that is effective like castor where beaver are spooked to castor? Would love to have a dependable change up attractant I could do the same as castor. Sometimes I just do not Understand you Jim, You can read... agree with someone, know the animal and then say "Wondering if there is some kind of food elixir someone has used outside of castor" Think about it! What does a Beaver Eat? as a Stand alone lure when going after fall feedpile binging beaver OR when they have been spooked by castor based lures ... and I will say it again... Popple Bud Oil or Birch Oil is as good as Anything ever thought up. and When using it, all that is needed is a couple well placed drops.
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Re: Cage Trapping Beaver
[Re: Nathan Krause]
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11/30/12 04:19 PM
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Now I don't want any of you to construe this as bragging because that would be as far from the Truth as you could get. While beaver are fairly new to my part of Wisconsin, ( We never got one single call this year ) I have never had a dissatisfied beaver customer that I know of.
I've probably trapped around a hundred beaver because they come up the Fox River from Illinois and the ADC guys in that state are about as good as they come. Because I know nothing about beaver, I set Conibears in runs, snares where I can, and footholds on drowner's in breaks in the dam.
On my very first job, I caught seven of them. ( I think the last one took me a month and a half ) No one has ever called me back ( which is free of charge for three months ) because I seem to have done the job. Since I'm too dumb to use attractants on beaver, maybe castor ain't all that necessary.
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Re: Cage Trapping Beaver
[Re: Nathan Krause]
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12/01/12 07:22 AM
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With my nuisance beaver calls I do a lot of what I call "mink trapping" of beaver. By that I mean a lot of blind setting, be it foothold/cage or snare. Most of the attempts to solve beaver issues around here include 330's and castor. Though never as well as castor on a fresh colony, poplar bud and birch oils have worked at times for me as food attractants/alternative lures. BUT, not all lures/attractants work the same for different trappers or in different areas. Sometimes it just comes down to what you've got confidence in. Might even be as simple as geography. How many northern Minnesota swamp beaver eat corn or build dams with the stalks? Very common here in Iowa. Same goes for Iowa beavers knowing what popple or birch are. The food sources here are corn/willow/soft maple/box elder/etc.
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Re: Cage Trapping Beaver
[Re: hvtrapper]
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12/01/12 09:15 AM
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With my nuisance beaver calls I do a lot of what I call "mink trapping" of beaver. By that I mean a lot of blind setting, be it foothold/cage or snare. Most of the attempts to solve beaver issues around here include 330's and castor. Though never as well as castor on a fresh colony, poplar bud and birch oils have worked at times for me as food attractants/alternative lures. BUT, not all lures/attractants work the same for different trappers or in different areas. Sometimes it just comes down to what you've got confidence in. Might even be as simple as geography. How many northern Minnesota swamp beaver eat corn or build dams with the stalks? Very common here in Iowa. Same goes for Iowa beavers knowing what popple or birch are. The food sources here are corn/willow/soft maple/box elder/etc. Very Good Imput hvtrapper. Confidence in a lure/ or method is something only learned from time on the Line.
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Re: Cage Trapping Beaver
[Re: Kirk De]
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08/03/17 10:16 AM
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It is good Boco but even though it is only 5 years old, it is out dated. There is much more available, it just hasn,t been updated and shown. Maybe a new thread? Kirk, what would you add? Maybe we could add to this one and make it a super-thread.
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Re: Cage Trapping Beaver
[Re: Nathan Krause]
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08/25/17 10:52 PM
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put your cage with peeled sticks and lure in cage right next to willow it's feeding on.
wire to tree if you have bears or wolves, they will roll it away.
oops, didn't see it was old. bear with me I'm new at this on the internet thing.
still, it would work fine.
Last edited by WyomingWoodsman; 08/25/17 10:53 PM.
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Re: Cage Trapping Beaver
[Re: AndrewM]
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08/26/17 03:49 PM
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Kirk, what would you add? Maybe we could add to this one and make it a super-thread Allow detailed descriptions of advantages and disadvantages of new products. Show the old as they relate to what is new. Bruce-"humptulips" has some. I know there is much more, such as designs with high speed guillotine doors. Cage trap design has improved dramatically in the last 10 years and it changes often.
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Re: Cage Trapping Beaver
[Re: Nathan Krause]
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08/29/17 09:00 AM
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Z-trap has a new beaver model. I saw it at the MN Trappers convention 2 weeks ago. It's very affordable
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Re: Cage Trapping Beaver
[Re: Nathan Krause]
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08/31/17 11:08 AM
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When buying a trap------------------ How well does it catch? What are its limitations? I would think a trapper would want a number of traps ( cages or not), that could be used at as many locations that would arise. Maybe one or two of a different design for special situations. If the trap is "affordable" but is not the most effective, is it really "affordable".
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