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Re: Cage Trapping Beaver [Re: Nathan Krause] #3434041 11/20/12 10:10 AM 11/20/12 10:10 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 NWWA/AZ Vinke trapper
Vinke trapper Joined: Dec 2006 NWWA/AZ	Dulling pictures,,,,,,,,,LOVE IT.....keep up the good work! Ant Man/ Marty 2028 just put your ear to the ground , and follow along

Re: Cage Trapping Beaver [Re: Nathan Krause] #3434099 11/20/12 11:00 AM 11/20/12 11:00 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Minnesota 330-Trapper trapper
330-Trapper trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Minnesota	Jim, I mentioned that castor is sometimes a detriment... and should be used sparingly on certain jobs... What I was bringing up was the less territorial essential oil of birch and popple many times out perform a castor based lure. NRA and NTA Life Member www.BackroadsRevised@etsy.com

Re: Cage Trapping Beaver [Re: Nathan Krause] #3440060 11/23/12 07:30 PM 11/23/12 07:30 PM
Joined: Nov 2008 Waterford, WI N Nathan Krause OP trapper
Nathan Krause OP trapper N Joined: Nov 2008 Waterford, WI	So Wednesday we finally got this beaver job started. I set the cage and tried to dig up some mud and of course the river in front of the house had no mud. So I had to go get mud from another part of the river and bring it in. This morning I show up and look who was waiting for me. Very happy to see it only took 48 hours to cage trap my first beaver. Now we just got 5 more to get. http://www.trappingbynate.com

Re: Cage Trapping Beaver [Re: Nathan Krause] #3440544 11/23/12 11:18 PM 11/23/12 11:18 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 mequon, wisconsin P Paul Winkelmann trapper
Paul Winkelmann trapper P Joined: Jul 2008 mequon, wisconsin	Let's hope they don't freeze. Yesterday was the warmest Thanksgiving I can remember. It was almost 60 degrees. Today reality struck; 25 degrees.

Re: Cage Trapping Beaver [Re: Nathan Krause] #3446180 11/27/12 11:46 AM 11/27/12 11:46 AM
Joined: Feb 2011 New York Jim Comstock trapper
Jim Comstock trapper Joined: Feb 2011 New York	330 is right on when it comes to castor as a deterrent when beaver get wised up to it. They will avoid it completely, never go near a set with castor of any kind if they have been pinched or may have seen several beaver caught at a castor set. Having different castor lures works well on beaver if you are catching and have not had a problem with a sprung trap, but if they are wised up, anything with castor in it, any brand or batch will have the same negative effect, a huge deterrent. I do have some birch and poplar bud oil, but have not used them much, relying on castor or blind sets most of the time. I have a bottle of Bob Wilson's green beaver lure and have used a little food lure, but again have not used it much or had great luck when I did so can not definitively say if it is good or not. Wondering if there is some kind of food elixir someone has used outside of castor that is effective like castor where beaver are spooked to castor? Would love to have a dependable change up attractant I could do the same as castor. http://www.comstockcustomcage.com/ https://www.facebook.com/pages/Comstock-Custom-Cage-LLC/343556115744235

Re: Cage Trapping Beaver [Re: Nathan Krause] #3446711 11/27/12 06:04 PM 11/27/12 06:04 PM
Joined: Feb 2012 south east michigan P Peskycritter trapper
Peskycritter trapper P Joined: Feb 2012 south east michigan	Awesome looking sets there Kirk htt:// www.critterremovalmi.net Free Trapper

Re: Cage Trapping Beaver [Re: Jim Comstock] #3451871 11/30/12 09:04 AM 11/30/12 09:04 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Minnesota 330-Trapper trapper
330-Trapper trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Minnesota	Originally Posted By: Jim Comstock 330 is right on when it comes to castor as a deterrent when beaver get wised up to it. They will avoid it completely, never go near a set with castor of any kind if they have been pinched or may have seen several beaver caught at a castor set. Having different castor lures works well on beaver if you are catching and have not had a problem with a sprung trap, but if they are wised up, anything with castor in it, any brand or batch will have the same negative effect, a huge deterrent. I do have some birch and poplar bud oil, but have not used them much, relying on castor or blind sets most of the time. I have a bottle of Bob Wilson's green beaver lure and have used a little food lure, but again have not used it much or had great luck when I did so can not definitively say if it is good or not. Wondering if there is some kind of food elixir someone has used outside of castor that is effective like castor where beaver are spooked to castor? Would love to have a dependable change up attractant I could do the same as castor. Sometimes I just do not Understand you Jim, You can read... agree with someone, know the animal and then say "Wondering if there is some kind of food elixir someone has used outside of castor" Think about it! What does a Beaver Eat? as a Stand alone lure when going after fall feedpile binging beaver OR when they have been spooked by castor based lures ... and I will say it again... Popple Bud Oil or Birch Oil is as good as Anything ever thought up. and When using it, all that is needed is a couple well placed drops. NRA and NTA Life Member www.BackroadsRevised@etsy.com

Re: Cage Trapping Beaver [Re: Nathan Krause] #3452315 11/30/12 01:45 PM 11/30/12 01:45 PM
Joined: Feb 2011 New York Jim Comstock trapper
Jim Comstock trapper Joined: Feb 2011 New York	I guess I will remain an enigma, but thanks for your input just the same. Will definitely try it as I do have some poplar bud oil. I have always been very skeptical of food stuff having tried a couple of well known brands that garnered little in results. I did do well with a few poplar branch tips, but in summer they cooked in the sun quickly. Castor does so well most of the time I had expected or hoped for similar results from the food lures but it did not happen. Sometimes in the past when I asked about food lure I was referred back to that which I had tried and had not produced in the past, so kind of forgot about it and the reason for skepticism. There are sometimes attractants and there are lures people rave about, which is what I was hoping to find in a second sure fire lure for beaver when castor becomes a deterrent. http://www.comstockcustomcage.com/ https://www.facebook.com/pages/Comstock-Custom-Cage-LLC/343556115744235

Re: Cage Trapping Beaver [Re: Nathan Krause] #3452600 11/30/12 05:19 PM 11/30/12 05:19 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 mequon, wisconsin P Paul Winkelmann trapper
Paul Winkelmann trapper P Joined: Jul 2008 mequon, wisconsin	Now I don't want any of you to construe this as bragging because that would be as far from the Truth as you could get. While beaver are fairly new to my part of Wisconsin, ( We never got one single call this year ) I have never had a dissatisfied beaver customer that I know of. I've probably trapped around a hundred beaver because they come up the Fox River from Illinois and the ADC guys in that state are about as good as they come. Because I know nothing about beaver, I set Conibears in runs, snares where I can, and footholds on drowner's in breaks in the dam. On my very first job, I caught seven of them. ( I think the last one took me a month and a half ) No one has ever called me back ( which is free of charge for three months ) because I seem to have done the job. Since I'm too dumb to use attractants on beaver, maybe castor ain't all that necessary.

Re: Cage Trapping Beaver [Re: Nathan Krause] #3453804 12/01/12 08:22 AM 12/01/12 08:22 AM
Joined: Mar 2009 E. Iowa H hvtrapper trapper
hvtrapper trapper H Joined: Mar 2009 E. Iowa	With my nuisance beaver calls I do a lot of what I call "mink trapping" of beaver. By that I mean a lot of blind setting, be it foothold/cage or snare. Most of the attempts to solve beaver issues around here include 330's and castor. Though never as well as castor on a fresh colony, poplar bud and birch oils have worked at times for me as food attractants/alternative lures. BUT, not all lures/attractants work the same for different trappers or in different areas. Sometimes it just comes down to what you've got confidence in. Might even be as simple as geography. How many northern Minnesota swamp beaver eat corn or build dams with the stalks? Very common here in Iowa. Same goes for Iowa beavers knowing what popple or birch are. The food sources here are corn/willow/soft maple/box elder/etc. Tom Walters

Re: Cage Trapping Beaver [Re: hvtrapper] #3453874 12/01/12 10:15 AM 12/01/12 10:15 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Minnesota 330-Trapper trapper
330-Trapper trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Minnesota	Originally Posted By: hvtrapper With my nuisance beaver calls I do a lot of what I call "mink trapping" of beaver. By that I mean a lot of blind setting, be it foothold/cage or snare. Most of the attempts to solve beaver issues around here include 330's and castor. Though never as well as castor on a fresh colony, poplar bud and birch oils have worked at times for me as food attractants/alternative lures. BUT, not all lures/attractants work the same for different trappers or in different areas. Sometimes it just comes down to what you've got confidence in. Might even be as simple as geography. How many northern Minnesota swamp beaver eat corn or build dams with the stalks? Very common here in Iowa. Same goes for Iowa beavers knowing what popple or birch are. The food sources here are corn/willow/soft maple/box elder/etc. Very Good Imput hvtrapper. Confidence in a lure/ or method is something only learned from time on the Line. NRA and NTA Life Member www.BackroadsRevised@etsy.com

Re: Cage Trapping Beaver [Re: Nathan Krause] #5965064 08/01/17 10:09 PM 08/01/17 10:09 PM
Joined: Aug 2011 james bay frontierOnt. B Boco trapper
Boco trapper B Joined: Aug 2011 james bay frontierOnt.	Good thread Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.

Re: Cage Trapping Beaver [Re: Nathan Krause] #5965220 08/02/17 06:03 AM 08/02/17 06:03 AM
Joined: Dec 2008 Georgia K Kirk De trapper
Kirk De trapper K Joined: Dec 2008 Georgia	Quote: Good thread It is good Boco but even though it is only 5 years old, it is out dated. There is much more available, it just hasn,t been updated and shown. Maybe a new thread? The Real Reasons Animals Are Detecting Your Sets And Devices by Kirk Dekalb https://amzn.to/2Hn1hxv

Re: Cage Trapping Beaver [Re: Nathan Krause] #5965772 08/02/17 09:47 PM 08/02/17 09:47 PM
Joined: Sep 2011 Erie, PA SifordOutdoorZ trapper
SifordOutdoorZ trapper Joined: Sep 2011 Erie, PA	Is this archived??? If not I feel it should be. Sifords Wildlife Services

Re: Cage Trapping Beaver [Re: Kirk De] #5966219 08/03/17 11:16 AM 08/03/17 11:16 AM
Joined: Sep 2015 Maine A AndrewM trapper
AndrewM trapper A Joined: Sep 2015 Maine	Originally Posted By: Kirk De Quote: Good thread It is good Boco but even though it is only 5 years old, it is out dated. There is much more available, it just hasn,t been updated and shown. Maybe a new thread? Kirk, what would you add? Maybe we could add to this one and make it a super-thread. www.unionrivertrappers.org

Re: Cage Trapping Beaver [Re: Nathan Krause] #5984567 08/25/17 11:52 PM 08/25/17 11:52 PM
Joined: Aug 2017 NW, WY W WyomingWoodsman trapper
WyomingWoodsman trapper W Joined: Aug 2017 NW, WY	put your cage with peeled sticks and lure in cage right next to willow it's feeding on. wire to tree if you have bears or wolves, they will roll it away. oops, didn't see it was old. bear with me I'm new at this on the internet thing. still, it would work fine. Last edited by WyomingWoodsman; 08/25/17 11:53 PM.

Re: Cage Trapping Beaver [Re: AndrewM] #5984933 08/26/17 04:49 PM 08/26/17 04:49 PM
Joined: Dec 2008 Georgia K Kirk De trapper
Kirk De trapper K Joined: Dec 2008 Georgia	Quote: Kirk, what would you add? Maybe we could add to this one and make it a super-thread Allow detailed descriptions of advantages and disadvantages of new products. Show the old as they relate to what is new. Bruce-"humptulips" has some. I know there is much more, such as designs with high speed guillotine doors. Cage trap design has improved dramatically in the last 10 years and it changes often. The Real Reasons Animals Are Detecting Your Sets And Devices by Kirk Dekalb https://amzn.to/2Hn1hxv

Re: Cage Trapping Beaver [Re: Nathan Krause] #5986733 08/29/17 10:00 AM 08/29/17 10:00 AM
Joined: Nov 2010 Rochester, MN Teacher trapper
Teacher trapper Joined: Nov 2010 Rochester, MN	Z-trap has a new beaver model. I saw it at the MN Trappers convention 2 weeks ago. It's very affordable Never too old to learn

Re: Cage Trapping Beaver [Re: Nathan Krause] #5988386 08/31/17 12:08 PM 08/31/17 12:08 PM
Joined: Dec 2008 Georgia K Kirk De trapper
Kirk De trapper K Joined: Dec 2008 Georgia	Quote: It's very affordable When buying a trap------------------ How well does it catch? What are its limitations? I would think a trapper would want a number of traps ( cages or not), that could be used at as many locations that would arise. Maybe one or two of a different design for special situations. If the trap is "affordable" but is not the most effective, is it really "affordable". The Real Reasons Animals Are Detecting Your Sets And Devices by Kirk Dekalb https://amzn.to/2Hn1hxv

Re: Cage Trapping Beaver [Re: Teacher] #5989017 09/01/17 10:01 AM 09/01/17 10:01 AM
Joined: Dec 2008 Georgia K Kirk De trapper
Kirk De trapper K Joined: Dec 2008 Georgia	Quote: Z-trap has a new beaver model Here is Neil's patent application. This shows door that locks with falling rings on each side. Is this the "Beaver Trap" you saw? http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2017/0000105.html The Real Reasons Animals Are Detecting Your Sets And Devices by Kirk Dekalb https://amzn.to/2Hn1hxv

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