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Re: Cage Trapping Beaver
[Re: Nathan Krause]
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11/16/12 10:39 AM
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No bait except for eye appeal(pealed stick, black berries,grass, mud,ect),,,,LURE........
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Re: Cage Trapping Beaver
[Re: Nathan Krause]
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11/16/12 11:03 AM
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I haven't used Backbreaker myself but it should work. What kind to trap are you using?
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Re: Cage Trapping Beaver
[Re: Nathan Krause]
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11/16/12 12:58 PM
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rhode island
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I caught one this week like this! comstock beaver trap,some peeled sticks,mound of mud, Backbreaker.found where they were frequenting nightly and made the set there,the next morning I had him.Its a castor mound set in a cage
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Re: Cage Trapping Beaver
[Re: ritrapper]
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11/17/12 04:41 AM
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Kirk De
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have you ever had a problem with them dragging sticks with them and jamming the door up?
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By having a trap with a larger opening it reduces the chance of that happening.(A large trap will accomodate some debre) Also, by putting lure on grass or sticks in the back of the trap(inside) the beaver is more apt to investigate instead of carrying sticks. The key when using lure is to block off the trap in such a way that the beaver can,t get close to the lure unless he goes in the trap. Blocking and trap plcement is very important, as it is when using a body grip on a castor mound set.The beaver react basicly the same way. If you use no lure on a dam set, you increase your chance for problems, especially if the trap has a small opening.
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Re: Cage Trapping Beaver
[Re: Nathan Krause]
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11/18/12 08:57 PM
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Here is picture from earlier post. There was a concern about debre.  I took the trap out for one night and set this trap the next night which was last night. This is what the trap looked like when I left it.  Here is todays catch.  I am posting this to show the difference in set as well as to show backing is not needed in a dam set like this with a cage trap.This is the 6th beaver caught here. One was in a conibear, the rest were in cages. I have two conibears set. The beaver have been going around the conibears and getting caught in the cages.If I would have used footholds I think I would have had similiar success, except I believe I may have had a snapped trap or at least one miss due to the conditions for the set. (awful muddy and water depth is shallow)
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Re: Cage Trapping Beaver
[Re: Nathan Krause]
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11/19/12 07:05 AM
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What would be a good bait to use in a cage trap for a beaver?
Please keep in mind I live in Wisconsin.
Thanks Another good Option this Time of year, that dosen't add the territorial aspect of castor based lure, is to use a few drops of Popple Bud oil - or - birch oil. Many times these few drops of lure are the Ticket when trying to catch that Shy Old Adult.
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Re: Cage Trapping Beaver
[Re: Nathan Krause]
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11/19/12 09:37 AM
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 330 mentioned castor, incredibly effective. It must be noted that lures, baits or attractants of any kind do not necessarily have to be placed inside of a cage trap for the traps to perform. In fact, I have found it better to do just the opposite, keeping trap and attractant separate, in proximity, but not together. When doing ADC work, like fur trapping, words like finesse, subtle, hidden, practical, versatile play an important role in how I approach each job. Size and weight are a big concern. Going back 20 years, Don Lefler had a really solid, well built cage trap for beaver, like those traps pictures above, just the trap was bigger and heavier than what I would use.  See the trap in the picture below? Barely, and that's the way I like it. No one else sees them either.  
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Re: Cage Trapping Beaver
[Re: Nathan Krause]
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11/19/12 07:42 PM
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Kirk De
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We have so many turtles and the weather is warm until Dec so I make sets to draw the beaver through the trap off away from a main run. Here is one I caught today that way. I placed lure so the beaver would investigate. Set trap in ditch where wind would blow scent to pond. First picture shows trap with beaver in it in the water(in ditch)  Trap placed on bank at location.   Trap with catch set on a run and just blocked off with log that was laying there.  Trap set in shallow ditch.  The catch.
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Re: Cage Trapping Beaver
[Re: Nathan Krause]
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11/20/12 09:10 AM
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Dulling pictures,,,,,,,,,LOVE IT.....keep up the good work!
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Re: Cage Trapping Beaver
[Re: Nathan Krause]
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11/20/12 10:00 AM
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Jim, I mentioned that castor is sometimes a detriment... and should be used sparingly on certain jobs... What I was bringing up was the less territorial essential oil of birch and popple many times out perform a castor based lure.
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Re: Cage Trapping Beaver
[Re: Nathan Krause]
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11/23/12 06:30 PM
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So Wednesday we finally got this beaver job started. I set the cage and tried to dig up some mud and of course the river in front of the house had no mud. So I had to go get mud from another part of the river and bring it in. This morning I show up and look who was waiting for me.  Very happy to see it only took 48 hours to cage trap my first beaver. Now we just got 5 more to get.
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Re: Cage Trapping Beaver
[Re: Jim Comstock]
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11/30/12 08:04 AM
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330 is right on when it comes to castor as a deterrent when beaver get wised up to it. They will avoid it completely, never go near a set with castor of any kind if they have been pinched or may have seen several beaver caught at a castor set. Having different castor lures works well on beaver if you are catching and have not had a problem with a sprung trap, but if they are wised up, anything with castor in it, any brand or batch will have the same negative effect, a huge deterrent.
I do have some birch and poplar bud oil, but have not used them much, relying on castor or blind sets most of the time. I have a bottle of Bob Wilson's green beaver lure and have used a little food lure, but again have not used it much or had great luck when I did so can not definitively say if it is good or not. Wondering if there is some kind of food elixir someone has used outside of castor that is effective like castor where beaver are spooked to castor? Would love to have a dependable change up attractant I could do the same as castor.
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Re: Cage Trapping Beaver
[Re: Nathan Krause]
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11/30/12 04:19 PM
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Now I don't want any of you to construe this as bragging because that would be as far from the Truth as you could get. While beaver are fairly new to my part of Wisconsin, ( We never got one single call this year ) I have never had a dissatisfied beaver customer that I know of.
I've probably trapped around a hundred beaver because they come up the Fox River from Illinois and the ADC guys in that state are about as good as they come. Because I know nothing about beaver, I set Conibears in runs, snares where I can, and footholds on drowner's in breaks in the dam.
On my very first job, I caught seven of them. ( I think the last one took me a month and a half ) No one has ever called me back ( which is free of charge for three months ) because I seem to have done the job. Since I'm too dumb to use attractants on beaver, maybe castor ain't all that necessary.
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Re: Cage Trapping Beaver
[Re: Nathan Krause]
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12/01/12 07:22 AM
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With my nuisance beaver calls I do a lot of what I call "mink trapping" of beaver. By that I mean a lot of blind setting, be it foothold/cage or snare. Most of the attempts to solve beaver issues around here include 330's and castor. Though never as well as castor on a fresh colony, poplar bud and birch oils have worked at times for me as food attractants/alternative lures. BUT, not all lures/attractants work the same for different trappers or in different areas. Sometimes it just comes down to what you've got confidence in. Might even be as simple as geography. How many northern Minnesota swamp beaver eat corn or build dams with the stalks? Very common here in Iowa. Same goes for Iowa beavers knowing what popple or birch are. The food sources here are corn/willow/soft maple/box elder/etc.
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Re: Cage Trapping Beaver
[Re: hvtrapper]
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12/01/12 09:15 AM
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With my nuisance beaver calls I do a lot of what I call "mink trapping" of beaver. By that I mean a lot of blind setting, be it foothold/cage or snare. Most of the attempts to solve beaver issues around here include 330's and castor. Though never as well as castor on a fresh colony, poplar bud and birch oils have worked at times for me as food attractants/alternative lures. BUT, not all lures/attractants work the same for different trappers or in different areas. Sometimes it just comes down to what you've got confidence in. Might even be as simple as geography. How many northern Minnesota swamp beaver eat corn or build dams with the stalks? Very common here in Iowa. Same goes for Iowa beavers knowing what popple or birch are. The food sources here are corn/willow/soft maple/box elder/etc. Very Good Imput hvtrapper. Confidence in a lure/ or method is something only learned from time on the Line.
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Re: Cage Trapping Beaver
[Re: Kirk De]
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08/03/17 10:16 AM
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It is good Boco but even though it is only 5 years old, it is out dated. There is much more available, it just hasn,t been updated and shown. Maybe a new thread? Kirk, what would you add? Maybe we could add to this one and make it a super-thread.
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Re: Cage Trapping Beaver
[Re: Nathan Krause]
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08/25/17 10:52 PM
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put your cage with peeled sticks and lure in cage right next to willow it's feeding on.
wire to tree if you have bears or wolves, they will roll it away.
oops, didn't see it was old. bear with me I'm new at this on the internet thing.
still, it would work fine.
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Re: Cage Trapping Beaver
[Re: AndrewM]
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08/26/17 03:49 PM
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Kirk, what would you add? Maybe we could add to this one and make it a super-thread Allow detailed descriptions of advantages and disadvantages of new products. Show the old as they relate to what is new. Bruce-"humptulips" has some. I know there is much more, such as designs with high speed guillotine doors. Cage trap design has improved dramatically in the last 10 years and it changes often.
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Re: Cage Trapping Beaver
[Re: Nathan Krause]
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08/29/17 09:00 AM
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Z-trap has a new beaver model. I saw it at the MN Trappers convention 2 weeks ago. It's very affordable
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Re: Cage Trapping Beaver
[Re: Nathan Krause]
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08/31/17 11:08 AM
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Kirk De
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When buying a trap------------------ How well does it catch? What are its limitations? I would think a trapper would want a number of traps ( cages or not), that could be used at as many locations that would arise. Maybe one or two of a different design for special situations. If the trap is "affordable" but is not the most effective, is it really "affordable".
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