A friend of mine was stuck with a bear trap he had built for a guy in Maine whom backed out on the purchase. It is a very heavy duty, well built trap. The trap is made from a heavy duty coragated culvert pipe and is on it's own trailer. Who would be a good contact to try and sell this trap. I'll get some some pictures posted as soon as I get them.

Could it catch anything else - like pigs?

Most game dept folks make their own with in house welders and maintenance folks.
I would still likely look to these folks if you are trying to sell it off, though I do
suspect you could catch a hog or two if baited and set right!

Tell your friend to talk to some local wardens and see if they can pass the word around.

Really your best bet, though finding a way to be paid by those folks depending on their
structure can be a tough deal. Often they are limited on who and what they can purchase
and how (cash, check, cards).

justin

If Georgia would free me to trap bear I would have a job sold now.

Most states don't allow private trappers to trap bear. I am not sure about the West Coast states but I know of few guys who trap bear and if memory serves me right they come from MN and ME.

I would like to see the pictures... But !!

Hog trapping and for other agricultural purposes such as transporting domestic livestock may help you unload it.

Yeah, and if Georgia would free him to trap bare, who knows how many he would have sold?

Paul, you do know what they say of a scotsman and his kilt?

I've got a commercial beekeeper who's loosing hives to a single bruin and he's approached me for answers. Sadly, I can not help him but referred him back to the same state that will not issue him a depredation permit. Only a landowner or tenant farmer is issued a depredation permit, almost every commercial beekeeper I am aware of runs bees on the property of others in exchange for pollination services. Hence the beekeeper is neither landowner or tenant.

David,

Have you looked into some of the hot fence rigs for this situation? Out of necessity I had to do some investigating and there
is a ton of good product out there and depending on the situation it really doesn't require too much equipment/material costs.

Maybe would be a problem with grass growth or other shorting issues where you are, I've got some areas where this type of
setup is perfect and no vegetation growth to fight with the power.

Just a thought, you've probably already had.



Justin

Justin, I have and when it comes time for me to set up hives off my property I'll be using electrified cattle panels. I mentioned this to my friend but when you're running 500 hives fencing isn't always a cost effective option.

BTW, his is also a mobile operation on four way pallets so set up and tear down is also a consideration.

If you knew an electrician he could probably help you out with some good electric fencing options!!

Warrior that would probably be Fred Dudash

That is correct...We could probably set up some sort of battery/solar powered mobile fencing system that can be moved in "panels" or even set up some sacraficial "electrified" dummy hives...Of course after obtaining proper okeedokees from the DNR

I figured you thought that one through already. As I suspected!

When I researched options for a client here in NM I found a myriad of options for hook ups.

As most probably know there are options for everything from your hunting camp in brown bear
country, to portable rigs and more permanent options.

Though I grew up a country boy with electric fencing always being around, I hadn't though much
about the factors of setting it up successfully for black bear. Have also done research into setups
for deer, which are also great for the right situation and environment.

Grounding, soil types, etc... plus they make very important tips about making sure the bear
doesn't get through once on you before you employ the fence as they are more likely to tolerate
the negative reinforcement.

Some other tips included laying the cattle panel or wire mesh on the ground outside your fence
perimeter which provides a mat to help ground the bear and deliver the proper charge.

On a side note, the lady I consulted for on the bear issue had an electrician locally install hers and he
ran it through every plant he could find, hooked it with very inferior poles and just in general set her
up to fail. With some tips though to his credit he came out and remedied the situation and didn't charge
her for the fixes.

I completely understand the issues though with being portable and the more moving parts the worse for
some folks. Time is money and balancing the threat with the costs too I'd imagine.

Good topic!

Fred as far as the DNR is concerned no permit to fence your stock. The issue I hear from those who have dealt with bears is you have to first condition the bear to avoid the fence. The two most common recommendations are to either hang a slab of bacon or smear a jar of peanut butter on the wire plus run the max voltage possible. They say it much harder to change the habits of a bear already acclimated to raiding a beeyard than it is to get him to avoid the area in the first place.
My research into bees and bears is that the problem is compounded by beeks failing to use the hottest and most secure systems from the get. The mild cattle chargers tickle them at best and they learn to blow right through it and once they get a tatse of honey, or actually the brood as they much prefer brood to honey, the white boxes become a bear magnet until that bear is dealt with.

Here's a good article.

http://www.kencove.com/fence/76_Bear+Fence_resource.php

Agreed! Forgot that aspect of pre conditioning, all docs and pubs I've read say the same.

And the aspect of true power versus the lower voltage livestock kits.

I've done a little looking into bear trapping and relocation just in case the day ever comes that is allowed for us. The cost of equipment, travel time and time on site (most of our bear are in the southern or extreme northern portions of the state), plus travel to relocate (the literature suggests >80 miles) and securing sites for the release of large predators while remaining within the known range of bears in Georgia would make it very costly per bear relocated. I can only see that type of work being done on the taxpayers dime as the average landowner would dollar and cents it to just kill the SOB and be done with it.
Now that said I do see the day coming when that type of service will be required as the bear numbers seem to be expanding in this state at the same time hunter numbers are falling (we are the only deep south state with a regulated bear season). This one is going to be a very touchy subject when that time comes.

That is what they have found in Florida.

They release them and they become a problem there. My friend in Fla, who is a biologist there, said they can go from central to north florida with a release and still have a bear return.Showed me a picture of a bear call he went on, bear weighed over 600 lbs.

He has told me many stories about bear problems. Said they are very common and have been for many years.

He said they have some of the highest populations of bears per square mile, in some areas of the state, that there is in the united states.

Tells you who controls the DNR.

WArrior/I think your friend needs some creative paperwork.Rent a bee plot,or whatever it takes to be classified as a farmer for 200 dollars.Signed rental agreement.Sell his services for 200.Or something like that.Might be the same thing as now but different