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Re: Guaranteed Service
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03/06/13 02:02 PM
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DaveK
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Hey....a thinker! Good idea to spell it out. If I were a customer, I would think it was money back guarentee...if I see another beaver after you pull traps!
Give it some thought....
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Re: Guaranteed Service
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03/06/13 02:14 PM
03/06/13 02:14 PM
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Georgia
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Hey....a thinker! Good idea to spell it out. If I were a customer, I would think it was money back guarentee...if I see another beaver after you pull traps!
Give it some thought.... Absolutely. Any warranty offered means I return and catch the animal that I missed or just moved in no money back anything with me. It's all in how you explain it to the client.
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Re: Guaranteed Service
[Re: Coondog6]
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03/06/13 04:33 PM
03/06/13 04:33 PM
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DaveK
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DaveK
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Guarenteeing your exclusion work is a funny thing. What if you miss a spot?
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Re: Guaranteed Service
[Re: Coondog6]
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03/06/13 04:46 PM
03/06/13 04:46 PM
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West Michigan
Getting There
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I think there is a difference between a Guarantee and a Warranty. I have a set up fee for moles and live trapping. I was thinking of having a guarantee that I will catch at least one mole or you do not have to pay the set up fee. Because the question always come up, what if I do not catch any moles. JMO
To Old U.S. Army 60-63 SGT.
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Re: Guaranteed Service
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03/06/13 04:56 PM
03/06/13 04:56 PM
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St. Louis area
Dave Schmidt
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Don't give away the shop! Unless you are absolutely sure you can catch a mole at every job, no matter what, you'll just hurt yourself. Better to offer more services until a catch is made, as I do. Had to make good on that once - in the beastly heat/drought of 2012.
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Re: Guaranteed Service
[Re: Coondog6]
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03/06/13 05:47 PM
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DaveK
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DaveK
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Sorry about my spelling....caught me in a lazy moment.
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Re: Guaranteed Service
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03/06/13 07:57 PM
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Smoky Mtns TN
Paul Antczak
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Guarenteeing your exclusion work is a funny thing. What if you miss a spot? Yep that happens. I guarantee the work performed.
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Re: Guaranteed Service
[Re: Coondog6]
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03/06/13 08:11 PM
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Mt. Olive, IL
Ron Scheller
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Regarding animal work not relating to interiors of homes/structures, it's not feasible to offer guarantees against returns. It's normal to offer guarantees on exclusion programs and exclusion work for bats, squirrels, raccoons, skunks, opossums, and others that are living in structures or under porches, etc, providing you perform the necessary exclusion work/barriers. It still depends on structure design, deterioration factors, etc as far as lenght of guarantee.
Animals like muskrats, beavers, moles, chipmunks, etc that are there because the habitat is attractive WILL return.... it's part of natural dispersion. The only guarantee I would tell someone regarding those type of animals is a guarantee they WILL eventually have more and experience the same problem. Annual contracts should be used for those people who want continuous monitoring/control. It may be 2 weeks, or 2 years, but unless drastic habitat modification is made it's going to be an ongoing problem. No different than fur trapping where you catch 25 muskrats every year from the same pond.... there will always be more.
Trying to offer a guarantee on such animals will put your company in the red real fast!
Ron Scheller
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Re: Guaranteed Service
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03/06/13 08:20 PM
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Ron Scheller
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Guarenteeing your exclusion work is a funny thing. What if you miss a spot? Then you fix it for free, entire exclusion process included. Guarantees on bat work is what seperates fly-by-night companies and established ones. Companies that try taking short-cuts with bat work will go broke in a year, unless of course they never return to honor their guarantee.... then they simply fade out of existence due to reputation. There's not a person on the planet who doesn't get a call-back once in a while on bat work, no matter how experienced. Taking care of those call-backs will be what keeps you in business and keeps your business growing. Ignoring a call-back or trying to blame the owner for something you missed seals your fate. Make sure your guarantee is plainly worded regarding storm damage, maintenance issues (or lack of), etc.
Ron Scheller
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Re: Guaranteed Service
[Re: Coondog6]
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03/07/13 06:03 AM
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DaveK
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DaveK
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ahhh, great. So you are guaranteeing your work and omissions.
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Re: Guaranteed Service
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03/07/13 07:03 AM
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DaveK
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DaveK
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As you should! 
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Re: Guaranteed Service
[Re: Paul Antczak]
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03/07/13 08:52 AM
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Trapper Don
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I agree. The guarantee is what seperates the professional from the Non-professional. In my 20 years in this business I have had call backs and because I did fix them (my cost) I am still here and doing well. I have also seen many operators who don't back up their work come and go. There are a lot out there that don't like my guarantee and say I make it hard for them to compete. Thats the idea, either do it right or get out. I deal almost 100% with beaver and exclusion is a different animal and to much to describe here. I guarantee we will solve your problem or you pay us nothing. Will more move in? Of course and the client understands that up front. What is needed is an on going maintainance program. I don't guarantee that I will catch all the beavers in the area, I will end your problem. Damming a spillway? We trap until the damming stops. Can there still be beaver there? Sure and we fence the spillway and maintain it for a year at the installation cost. After that they need to pay an annual fee and if beaver comeback and over-come the system, we trap at our cost. We have been doing this long enough to know if this will work at a site or not and if not we trap them all. The rule of thumb is if there is no activity for a month we did our job. As I said the client understands that if the area is good habitat then they will have a problem again. The best plan is WE check it several times a year and take care of new problems as they arise and thats what they pay us annualy for. A one time a year fee and if nothing shows up, we still get the same money and if we have to trap a couple new young ones, we get the same fee. It has worked very well for us and our work is scheduled and not crisis managment with frantic client calls. Any operator that will not backup their work,or don't have insurance should not be in business. So how do you make any money with call backs?? Charge a proper fee in the first place or don't take the job. Low ballers always die off and those that charge what they are worth survive and thrive. So as I have said many times before. "We are not trappers, we are business men(and women)who use trapping as one of our tools." Think business first and trapper second. Charge for your time as well as by the animal and back up what you offer and FINISH THE JOB...To many times I get calls because someone quit because it got to hard and they were losing money. If you can't do it..Don't start it. Don LaFountain
Last edited by Trapper Don; 03/07/13 09:02 AM.
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