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Re: Recommendation on a foam gun
[Re: mchitwood]
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04/07/13 01:55 PM
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Dave Schmidt
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Paul B, I've used your technique with a gun or two. As I recollect, it worked at least once. My beef is that they are sooo simple, yet completely unrepairable ( no replacement parts available, parts often very poorly-designed),... but expensive! The cans can be very unreliable, as well. Probably 50% of the cans I use - except in high-usage times - either clog up or won't stop running.
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Re: Recommendation on a foam gun
[Re: Paul Winkelmann]
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04/07/13 06:09 PM
04/07/13 06:09 PM
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Frankfort, Ky. USA
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Dave I have the same beef as you and melting the foam only works part of the time. It really seems like some engineer would make a repairable one. It's like metro said you have to follow instructions and cover it if it is exposed to uv rays. I think one of the most important things is keep your foam warm all the time. Cold and hot seems to stop up the gun. Foam used properly is a good tool. I have made some repairs or exclusions that have been in place for 15 years. More than ten years ago at a wildlife job the customer mentioned a water leak in his basement. I offered to put foam in it at no charge and no guarantee. It is still holding without leaking. If you give your client options and offer an exclusion for 150 dollars using wire and foam or a repair for 1200 dollars and the client chooses the exclusion I don't think you have done a bad or unprofessional thing. I used to use foam a lot on bats with sealant on top or paint but I mostly replaced it with backer rod or some other backing with sealant. If it is a big enough gap that I am going to have to trim with metal wood or vinyl foam is a good filler behind it because it blocks out all air currents and with your trim in place the gap disappears to the animals senses. Most chew ins or tear ins started with an air current caused by sloppy construction or maintenance. Every job is individual do good work, use the appropriate product charge accordingly. Foam is like guns or pain killers it can be abused but sometimes it is the right tool. Rugged that geat foam turns to powder pretty quickly and this sounds like it probably needs a piece of trim put over a sealant. I am not cabable of doing it but pictures or measurments would be a good thread of its own for advice on this issue.
Sleep'n with an animal..I can help. Do not use both feet when testing the depth or temperature of the water Your Friend, Paul Brooker
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Re: Recommendation on a foam gun
[Re: Rugged]
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04/07/13 07:01 PM
04/07/13 07:01 PM
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Rugged it sounds like the actual entry in the envelope is not very wide and silicone ws probably the right choice. That point probably does a lot of expanding and contracting and foam doesn't do that well and you can't paint it there either. Paint on vinyl to vinyl or brick doesn't look good either. If I used foam there it would probably be to fill the void out of my sight. Either a pre fab trim or one you made yourself would probably be a good thing also.
Sleep'n with an animal..I can help. Do not use both feet when testing the depth or temperature of the water Your Friend, Paul Brooker
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Re: Recommendation on a foam gun
[Re: mchitwood]
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04/07/13 07:08 PM
04/07/13 07:08 PM
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DaveK
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I read that pur is paintable. Whereas, pure silicon is not.
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Re: Recommendation on a foam gun
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04/07/13 07:12 PM
04/07/13 07:12 PM
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Tht spot sounds like a non paintable area so I would not use pur. If not going to cover with some kind of trim I would use clear sealant.
Sleep'n with an animal..I can help. Do not use both feet when testing the depth or temperature of the water Your Friend, Paul Brooker
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Re: Recommendation on a foam gun
[Re: Rugged]
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04/07/13 09:58 PM
04/07/13 09:58 PM
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Now that you described those little steps I know exactly what you are talking about and your silicone will be alright. I might have put some type of mesh wire and filled and covered it with the silicone. I did one of those for sparrows and I did underfillwith foam then white silicone over it. I think Iput a wad of 1/4 cloth in before the foam but not necessary for tht spot as you have closed off the air current and sparroww and bat wont tear out your silicone. Sounds like you have it covered.
Sleep'n with an animal..I can help. Do not use both feet when testing the depth or temperature of the water Your Friend, Paul Brooker
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Re: Recommendation on a foam gun
[Re: Dave Schmidt]
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04/08/13 08:45 AM
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Mike K.
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"The cans can be very unreliable, as well. Probably 50% of the cans I use - except in high-usage times - either clog up or won't stop running."
Dave made a good point. I have ended up with unusable cans of foam as well. Even after using multiple types of cleaners on the contact point they would not flow. I WISH TODOL WOULD MAKE SMALLER SIZED CANS FOR LESS WEIGHT ON THE GUN AND LESS WASTE WHEN THE CANS STOP FLOWING. (Maybe they heard me) As far as the guns go I agree they need to be made with "serviceable" in mind.
Last edited by METRO FS; 04/09/13 11:33 AM.
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