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snakes #3773677
04/22/13 10:40 PM
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wanting some advice. i have been catching snakes for clients for years. just wondering if anyone makes a chemical that works to spray around these yards to detour snakes

Re: snakes [Re: jbboy] #3773745
04/22/13 11:13 PM
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In the yard or in the house? In the house, like mice, find and seal the entry point. In the yard, Nature happens.

Re: snakes [Re: jbboy] #3773879
04/23/13 12:37 AM
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Nothing that I could use and feel good about it. Snake fencing and full yard exclusion in the only way to go. Tree trimming helps too.


Aaron

Re: snakes [Re: jbboy] #3774062
04/23/13 07:39 AM
04/23/13 07:39 AM
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I use sulfur.

I'm up front with my customers and tell them right off the bat that it's not proven to work but many times they want it just for the piece of mind. I dust it underneath the house around the walls.

In fact, I'm going to treat one this afternoon. On the average house, I'll charge 125 bucks for the service.


Muddawg
Re: snakes [Re: jbboy] #3774070
04/23/13 07:46 AM
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Registered pesticide?

Re: snakes [Re: jbboy] #3774227
04/23/13 10:12 AM
04/23/13 10:12 AM
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Quote:
Snake fencing and full yard exclusion in the only way to go



That is the way we do it here


Ant Man/ Marty 2028
just put your ear to the ground , and follow along

Re: snakes [Re: jbboy] #3774265
04/23/13 10:46 AM
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Have venomous snake clients, did a ton of research into what has been studied and tested as effective both for physical barriers and chemical type.

There are good extension pubs based on research that suggest for most rattlesnakes 1/4" hardware cloth is effective, and there are folks offering this
type of fence commercially. I had a client who was bitten (before they called us) who wanted to exclude the whole garden area where this occurred. Thanks to this clients ordeal, I learned a lot more than I had known about snakes. We used info provided through extension pubs and through brown tree snake research (a serious climbing snake) to provide fence advice to this client.

The chemical barriers that have all been tested (and yes I know many folks insist theirs work and if they do great) suggest low efficacy and the need to re-apply materials often. Many people buy "snake away" and other products and put down a thin line around gardens or houses. Most research showed that unless the snake is detecting the odor as it crosses this line, it won't even notice or be deterred in the least. This includes all chemicals discussed on most threads, and includes things like king snake gland odors and other things meant to elicit a predator/prey escape response from snakes.

There are folks who guarantee a snake free environment and again, more power to them, but I will only go as far as to come remove rattlesnakes when their death is nearly 100% if left on scene. Due to the bulk of yards being incredibly hard to exclude and other human factors (leaving the gate open), I wouldn't guarantee no snakes to anyone.

Then you have the folks who don't even want to see a non venomous snake, in my state though we have nearly 37 of these, the gopher (bull) snake is the most common and climbs anything you can think of better than you'd imagine. So snake phobic folks are the greater challenge.

Some folks of course use the "snake fence" which is actually bird net and catches and kills snakes ultimately if not checked daily and even then sometimes the netting is too constricted and has already killed the snakes. I understand folks wanting to protect kids, themselves and their pets or livestock, but the garden netting perimeter is a tough one for me, have now to date in the last 2 years released over a dozen gopher snakes that would have otherwise died poorly and without any need.

Forgot to add in, what DaveK I assume means, is are the products you are putting down considered "treatment" under your states pest control applicator licensing? Lots of gray area to get into a heap of trouble calling something what it is not legally.

Justin

Last edited by HD_Wildlife; 04/23/13 10:48 AM. Reason: extra info
Re: snakes [Re: jbboy] #3774281
04/23/13 11:02 AM
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Yup. Putting down a chemical to repel a critter is considered a pesticide. For example, if you were to put table salt down on the grass to repel big foot, then the table salt would need to be approved for that use in your State. The manufacturer would need to register the product, and have an approved label designed. Then, you would need to apply it according to the label.

I am not sure if Sulfur is registered for use for snakes. I just ask the question because you identified a chemical name....rather than a tradename such as SnakeAway.

Re: snakes [Re: jbboy] #3775527
04/23/13 11:00 PM
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that is what i was thinking

Re: snakes [Re: jbboy] #3775874
04/24/13 08:53 AM
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In Missouri, as well as many other states, a commercially applied repellent requires an applicators (pesticide) license - even if you are using registered products or ingredients in their raw form such as those listed on the EPA 25b list (see link below).

http://www.epa.gov/oppbppd1/biopesticides/regtools/25b_list.htm#activeingredients

Re: snakes [Re: jbboy] #3775983
04/24/13 10:27 AM
04/24/13 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted By: jbboy
wanting some advice. i have been catching snakes for clients for years. just wondering if anyone makes a chemical that works to spray around these yards to detour snakes


Just stick to snake tongs, snake hooks and glue boards.
Muddawg

A smart man would cease and desist selling any repellent or pesticide without the proper license.

http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/EnactedLegislation/Statutes/HTML/ByArticle/Chapter_106/Article_4C.html


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Re: snakes [Re: jbboy] #3776248
04/24/13 01:30 PM
04/24/13 01:30 PM
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On the much lighter side ......

I am gonna share with you guys a snake removal training video we are working on

http://thewildlifepro.net/video/we-train-em-young

Notice we did not use any repellents in this video.


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