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Mouse Job #3779813
04/26/13 07:17 PM
04/26/13 07:17 PM
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Holt Michigan
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A friend of the family has a serious mouse problem. In all honesty its a hoarder house and there's a lot of mouse territory around the area. What's the best way to solve this problem. I know i have to take out the nest and seal the entrances once all the mice are caught. How should I go about catching them. I am pretty sure that snap and glue traps are the way to go. What do you guys think. Also, are standard or expanded pan mouse traps better? Thanks
-NFT

Re: Mouse Job [Re: NFT] #3779870
04/26/13 07:51 PM
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Can you catch all of them quicker than they can reproduce?

Re: Mouse Job [Re: NFT] #3779875
04/26/13 07:56 PM
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Not sure. Haven't scoped it out yet. Will probably be able to next weekend if not this weekend.

Re: Mouse Job [Re: NFT] #3779915
04/26/13 08:13 PM
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Well, it is something to consider as you plan your strategy.

Re: Mouse Job [Re: NFT] #3780151
04/26/13 10:57 PM
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Alright, I'll take a look at the place and maybe post some pics. I can get some snap traps pretty cheap from Victor and I need some for around the house anyway.

Re: Mouse Job [Re: NFT] #3780190
04/26/13 11:38 PM
04/26/13 11:38 PM
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If it's hoarders living there then walk away. Hoarding is a mental illness and for most rat and mice jobs/exclusions to work well the client has to participate by changing habits and practices that provide food and harborage for rodents. The hoarder is the last one you could expect to comply with such a plan.

If you end up making a career out of this you'll eventually realize that the animals come easy it's the humans that you need to learn to read and know which ones are which.


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Re: Mouse Job [Re: NFT] #3780444
04/27/13 08:54 AM
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Well, the hoarder of the house is no longer around. They passed away a few years ago. An elderly woman lives there now. She is not attached to the stuff and would be willing to get rid of it. Before I trap the rodents, I should probably make weekend out of junking all the crap around there. I'm pretty sure I could get some help from my cousins and we could clean that house out. Then, taking care of the mice would be easier.

Re: Mouse Job [Re: NFT] #3780446
04/27/13 08:57 AM
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Since you're dealing with a hoarder, the chances of success are minimal to begin with. Even if it is a family member, friend, church member, or whoever, consider if getting involved is the best thing to do. Nothing stings more than doing a favor for someone only to find out later that they have been complaining to others about the incomplete job you’ve done. Since you aren’t there to defend yourself it is impossible to set the record straight that it wasn’t you, rather it was their actions (or lack of them) that caused the problem to continue.

If you do decide to help, here are some basics to keep in mind:

The first step in any commensal rodent job is to remove the food and harborage as much as possible. The key to success is for the client to keep the area clean of these items (i.e., perform basic sanitation actions).

The second step would be to use a combination trap/rodenticide treatment to knockdown the population level. For traps, you can use multi-catch mouse traps, glue traps or snap traps. As with all types of trapping, everyone will have their favorite types of traps to use. Push button or T-Rex style traps (these are generally plastic style traps) are very easy to set and remove caught mice from while strike bar style traps may be more difficult. Based on who is tending the traps and how they are baited, may determine the type of traps used. For plastic style traps, consider using commercial bait such as Provoke (which is what the traps are manufactured for anyway). When working with thin pans, use cotton balls firmly attached to the pan. For wide pans, use a food bait/lure. Regardless of the trap, location and proper trap placement will have more to do with success than the type of trap used. Despite public opinion, there is a correct way and an incorrect way to place a mouse trap.

The third step is to perform exclusion / repair services to keep the rodents out. Check for openings not just at ground level but also up to and on the roof and remove/repair what you can. Rodents will easily chew through silicon, so use a commercial grade sealant instead on cracks.

We recommend installing/maintaining rodenticide feeding stations outside of the structure for our fourth step. This allows treatment of potential animals before they can become established inside the structure and acts as a monitoring system which is the fifth step of a successful program.




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Re: Mouse Job [Re: NFT] #3780454
04/27/13 09:04 AM
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Thanks, WTC, will do. Where can I get Provoke? Gonna order 2 doz more traps from Victor soon anyway, do they sell it?.

Re: Mouse Job [Re: NFT] #3780480
04/27/13 09:28 AM
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Wildlife Control Supplies carries it along with several different styles of the mouse traps. Here is a link for the traps http://www.wildlifecontrolsupplies.com/M...ry_Code=NWS00T4 and for the Provoke http://www.wildlifecontrolsupplies.com/M..._Code=Mouse-Rat


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Re: Mouse Job [Re: NFT] #3780602
04/27/13 11:33 AM
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If you have a Univar near by they carry provoke. Everything wct said too.


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Re: Mouse Job [Re: NFT] #3780780
04/27/13 03:24 PM
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I have no idea who this Eric guy is but I wish he would have said something sooner. We have two hoarder houses going right now and I would imagine that since there are actually people older than me, this type of business is going to continue.

I often wished that I had someone who I could call in situations like these. I have no knowledge of antiques and am really to busy to try and learn. ( My grandkids think that I qualify as an antique ) I would hate to see any of us throw away something that might mean a years wages.

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