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Re: First Woodchuck Job! [Re: NFT] #3811750
05/22/13 09:01 PM
05/22/13 09:01 PM
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RF Wildlife Offline
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CT
Just ordered a few more chuck traps with the nose cones today from you Jim. Love the traps, I use broken safeguards as nose cones over vents and under soffits for raccoons. Your traps nest perfectly inside the safeguard raccoon traps. They are the best traps I have found to catch what I consider the hardest critter to trap, momma skunk.

Re: First Woodchuck Job! [Re: NFT] #3813762
05/24/13 08:17 AM
05/24/13 08:17 AM
Joined: Feb 2011
New York
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New York
I try to be analytical, merely going over each of the known, anticipated scenarios one by one, which will in the end usually dictate the correct approach or at least make you aware of the trade offs, plusses and minuses. When we set conibears in a positive set in a den hole we don't think twice, which is the basic premise for a double door cage trap, just a "wire box conibear" with a live chuck. The cage is quick and easy and comes with peace of mind in suburbia. Never want the "cure" to be worse than the disease.

I was asked the definition of a blind set. It is merely an unbaited set placed anywhere in a trail or travel way or a den, which has been named a positive set. When I get a call on skunks or chucks I usually ask, "do you have a fence or an out building." Most often the answer is yes and the land owner will frequently volunteer that there is a hole under one or both, great blind sets. A flush mount internal door double door cage trap or cage trap with an external door and a nose cone will cover either opening to take the chuck, skunk, possum armadillo, whatever, both coming and going, just like a conibear, but minus the danger. As a plus, in using both cages and conibears I have found that cages are no less effective a tool than a conibear for these animals and more, actually more effective for several reasons concerning the nature of the function of each device, another topic.

If den holes are not readily available, the hole is on the neighbors property and for some reason you can not access it, chucks love to travel along the edge of buildings, fences, walls etc. any structure, so a pinch point between a wall and a bush is all it takes. Set and place the trap, done. You can see where chucks part the grass especially when it is tall. Again a double door cage in the travel way will take him. I like to put some grass in the bottom of the cage and sprinkle some on the cage to blend it, but chucks don't seem to do a lot of avoiding. They are used to humans and all the plastic, metal and junk we leave all over the place.

Had to laugh about a story of a coyote caught in a double door cage. The 'yote was coming in to a junk yard, nothing but steel. They had a pinch point and covered the trap with mufflers, tail pipes etc. Nabbed him first night. Guess its all relative.

Once you have made a blind set, there is nothing to preclude you from adding some bait or lure if you feel the need, but then you are back to attracting the non targets, which slows the process in more trips and sometimes the client will balk at additional charges for a mess of unwanted unintentional catches.

Re: First Woodchuck Job! [Re: NFT] #3813851
05/24/13 09:51 AM
05/24/13 09:51 AM
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RF, I love your shot about the broken Safeguards. If you repair them using Tomahawk parts, do you then have to change the name to Tomaguards or Safehawks?

Re: First Woodchuck Job! [Re: NFT] #3814974
05/25/13 07:59 AM
05/25/13 07:59 AM
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New York
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Paul, you're just too serious, as always.

Re: First Woodchuck Job! [Re: NFT] #3815521
05/25/13 03:47 PM
05/25/13 03:47 PM
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mequon, wisconsin
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I know Jim. Perhaps if you and Judy stopped here on your way to the FTA, you could get me to lighten up a bit.

Re: First Woodchuck Job! [Re: NFT] #3815581
05/25/13 04:30 PM
05/25/13 04:30 PM
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SW Pa
To me a trail and blind set are one in the same. A positive set to me is a set made on a structural entry, over an established or suspected den or frequented harborage site.

Re: First Woodchuck Job! [Re: NFT] #3817558
05/26/13 11:21 PM
05/26/13 11:21 PM
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Waterford, WI
Set this job up yesterday.

Two holes going under house. Hole 1 is not visible in the picture but was full of grass clippings. Hole 2 is where the hose goes under the house and had no grass clippings. I asked home owner how long ago he mowed and he said day before. Grass clippings told me which hole was the primary. I stuffed a brick in hole 1 and set trap by hole 2.

I just set the trap on the ground. I do not mess around with putting a bedding in the bottom of the trap. Threw a piece of cantelope in the back of the trap and was on my way.

Customer called 2 hours after I set the trap and let me know we caught our woodchuck.



I always prefer a positive set but this trap is only used for woodchucks and the smell of countless woodchucks inside of it make it work great without worrying about a positive set.

Re: First Woodchuck Job! [Re: NFT] #3820378
05/28/13 08:38 PM
05/28/13 08:38 PM
Joined: Apr 2008
West Virginia
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Joined: Apr 2008
West Virginia
I do the same Nate. Still catching hogs.I will agree though sometimes a posive set is the answer but I set snares in a couple holes on a farm and ended up with a possum the secret to bait is to keep it fresh.


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