Coyote hazing
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08/02/13 06:39 PM
08/02/13 06:39 PM
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Joined: Aug 2011
NE, NC
Big Bear Wildlif
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It appears for the customers to get me to trap this nuisance coyote that has eaten the neighborhoods cats, and threatened people as well, They need to prove that I have done what is humanly possible to haze it. I've done fox, but any ideas besides the hose tricks and yelling that doesn't work to get him to move on? Appears to be a male. You gotta love CT.
Be Green, Buy Fur. NE- NC
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Re: Coyote hazing
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#3923027
08/03/13 06:37 AM
08/03/13 06:37 AM
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Joined: Aug 2011
NE, NC
Big Bear Wildlif
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Rich it's Branford Point and the houses are so close it's sick. Yote ate his neighbors cat in front of him and wouldn't back off. Bangers might get some folks upset. Have trail cams up to see if any regular trail he uses. This thing is going between houses and anywhere he wants. Using fox urine to see if I can get him to a spot on a regular basis. IF they can give him a permit to let me trap. What a mess.
Be Green, Buy Fur. NE- NC
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Re: Coyote hazing
[Re: Big Bear Wildlif]
#3924429
08/04/13 12:33 PM
08/04/13 12:33 PM
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HD_Wildlife
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NM
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Big Bear - Though I understand most folks would either pass or suggest the other options we all use in a variety of situations, lets talk hazing for a minute.
Hazing we all likely know is meant to modify the behavior, or habitat use of the species. This can be bangers, screamers, and other noise devices and can be used on a range of wildlife that is pretty much endless including everything from mammals to birds and others. The effectiveness usually depends on how quickly the animal adapts and likely to some extent the intelligence of the animal.
So talking coyotes, we are obviously talking an animal that learns far quicker than we'd like and can make hazing extremely difficult to employ if not impossible sometimes. However folks like the idea more and more and depending on local laws or abilities, its worth discussing even if most folks file it under a joke or junk.
There are many cities in the US that have adopted strategies that begin with non lethal approaches to coyote issues. Usually these strategies do have a scale and when things hit a certain scale lethal control is employed, while in other areas, no lethal is allowed and of course plenty of areas where coyotes are removed with no discussion.
My goal in this post is to simply state something about hazing, I know folks who have moved den sites out of tough areas with lots of dogs and hikers by using hazing, I know other areas where this has modified the behavior of coyotes, and I know areas where it has been tried and failed.
Hazing with any animal tends to have to be modified as the animal learns or adapts to the noise or act we portray. So if we start with yelling, raising our arms and making ourselves seem "scary" to the coyote, we might put off an animal who has only crossed paths with hikers or people interested in seeing coyotes and therefore they don't yell, scream or make any attempts at aggression toward it.
So once this fails, which generally speaking will happen with any coyote that is already very habituated or used to the folks its running across each day, we have to step up.
Some folks throw sticks, rocks, and other things that are ultimately non lethal (or meant to be) but might again remind the coyote the potential of dying or being wounded by these crazy humans.
Now for most, this is where hazing ends and either giving up, or lethal control options come into play.
I continue to suggest to hikers and dog walkers who chronically see coyotes bold enough or comfortable enough to approach people or be within 15-20 feet, that they should carry dog or bear pepper spray. This again is non lethal, but will of course put an impression on the animal.
If it helps reset the habituation clock, great, if not, you still have an issue and you likely will either be removing the animal lethally or you will be leaving this job alone and letting these folks find someone else to ask to deal with this.
Anyway, my .02, this is a common issue out here where I am in the urban/suburban environment, and there are folks who are organized and will go out and haze for free in neighborhoods having these issues. While it may not always work, I applaud that they put their "money" where their mouth is in offering to do it for homeowners and hikers.
Many folks believe their issue is resolved when coyote A is removed and that they can now let their toy dogs out at night without human attendance, they can leave free range fowl out, etc... Of course everyone on this forum knows that is false, so folks need to look at a wide range of methods and options including better husbandry of domestics including pets and farm stock and be adaptable to offer all options from non lethal, through typical removal by lethal means.
Okay, back to work, bids to do....
Justin
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Re: Coyote hazing
[Re: Big Bear Wildlif]
#3925566
08/05/13 06:22 AM
08/05/13 06:22 AM
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Joined: Aug 2011
NE, NC
Big Bear Wildlif
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Hd, Thanks for your input. These folks want some one else to handle their problems, they run from it and I can't sit and wait for it to show up. I may go through the motions to satisfy the DEEP. Then they can go for the permit. Newhouse we can't use suppressors that I know of.
Be Green, Buy Fur. NE- NC
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Re: Coyote hazing
[Re: Big Bear Wildlif]
#3926715
08/05/13 08:56 PM
08/05/13 08:56 PM
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Joined: Nov 2012
Dayville, CT
Steven Valys
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Dayville, CT
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Hd, Thanks for your input. These folks want some one else to handle their problems, they run from it and I can't sit and wait for it to show up. I may go through the motions to satisfy the DEEP. Then they can go for the permit. Newhouse we can't use suppressors that I know of. Suppressors are legal to use at the range, not for hunting. Good luck with DEEP, got an ADC friend who hasn't been authorized for out-of-season yote/fox termination in the last 14 years. Our fur bearers are too "valuable" according to the head biologists.
Steven Valys
2012-2013 Mongeau/Valys team catches: 6 beaver,11 coon, 3 fisher, 4 red fox, 2 skunk, 2 coyote, 3 possum
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