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Coyote hazing #3922531
08/02/13 06:39 PM
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It appears for the customers to get me to trap this nuisance coyote that has eaten the neighborhoods cats, and threatened people as well, They need to prove that I have done what is humanly possible to haze it. I've done fox, but any ideas besides the hose tricks and yelling that doesn't work to get him to move on? Appears to be a male. You gotta love CT.


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Re: Coyote hazing [Re: Big Bear Wildlif] #3922544
08/02/13 06:53 PM
08/02/13 06:53 PM
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Sounds like one of those jobs I'd have to pass on.
That or say "boo" and then pop him!



Re: Coyote hazing [Re: Big Bear Wildlif] #3922545
08/02/13 06:55 PM
08/02/13 06:55 PM
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Georgia
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Done right hazing with a 223 is very humane.


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Re: Coyote hazing [Re: Big Bear Wildlif] #3922718
08/02/13 09:28 PM
08/02/13 09:28 PM
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What town? Is a bird banger an option? I am going to do a bit of calling for one that took a cat 30 ft from the owner, also has been stalking their old horse. This is on a farm so hunting them is an option. Wish we could night shoot here they are hanging out near the farm pond about 10pm every night. Free one for a loyal customers parents.

I have been passing your name for some fox, and yote calls in residential areas since spring.

Re: Coyote hazing [Re: RF Wildlife] #3923027
08/03/13 06:37 AM
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Rich it's Branford Point and the houses are so close it's sick. Yote ate his neighbors cat in front of him and wouldn't back off. Bangers might get some folks upset. Have trail cams up to see if any regular trail he uses. This thing is going between houses and anywhere he wants. Using fox urine to see if I can get him to a spot on a regular basis. IF they can give him a permit to let me trap. What a mess.


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Re: Coyote hazing [Re: Big Bear Wildlif] #3924006
08/04/13 01:31 AM
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I would just get Road Runner to do my coyote Hazing


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Re: Coyote hazing [Re: Big Bear Wildlif] #3924429
08/04/13 12:33 PM
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Big Bear - Though I understand most folks would either pass or suggest the other options we all use in a variety of situations, lets talk hazing for a minute.

Hazing we all likely know is meant to modify the behavior, or habitat use of the species. This can be bangers, screamers, and other noise devices and can be used on a range of wildlife that is pretty much endless including everything from mammals to birds and others. The effectiveness usually depends on how quickly the animal adapts and likely to some extent the intelligence of the animal.

So talking coyotes, we are obviously talking an animal that learns far quicker than we'd like and can make hazing extremely difficult to employ if not impossible sometimes. However folks like the idea more and more and depending on local laws or abilities, its worth discussing even if most folks file it under a joke or junk.

There are many cities in the US that have adopted strategies that begin with non lethal approaches to coyote issues. Usually these strategies do have a scale and when things hit a certain scale lethal control is employed, while in other areas, no lethal is allowed and of course plenty of areas where coyotes are removed with no discussion.

My goal in this post is to simply state something about hazing, I know folks who have moved den sites out of tough areas with lots of dogs and hikers by using hazing, I know other areas where this has modified the behavior of coyotes, and I know areas where it has been tried and failed.

Hazing with any animal tends to have to be modified as the animal learns or adapts to the noise or act we portray. So if we start with yelling, raising our arms and making ourselves seem "scary" to the coyote, we might put off an animal who has only crossed paths with hikers or people interested in seeing coyotes and therefore they don't yell, scream or make any attempts at aggression toward it.

So once this fails, which generally speaking will happen with any coyote that is already very habituated or used to the folks its running across each day, we have to step up.

Some folks throw sticks, rocks, and other things that are ultimately non lethal (or meant to be) but might again remind the coyote the potential of dying or being wounded by these crazy humans.

Now for most, this is where hazing ends and either giving up, or lethal control options come into play.

I continue to suggest to hikers and dog walkers who chronically see coyotes bold enough or comfortable enough to approach people or be within 15-20 feet, that they should carry dog or bear pepper spray. This again is non lethal, but will of course put an impression on the animal.

If it helps reset the habituation clock, great, if not, you still have an issue and you likely will either be removing the animal lethally or you will be leaving this job alone and letting these folks find someone else to ask to deal with this.

Anyway, my .02, this is a common issue out here where I am in the urban/suburban environment, and there are folks who are organized and will go out and haze for free in neighborhoods having these issues. While it may not always work, I applaud that they put their "money" where their mouth is in offering to do it for homeowners and hikers.

Many folks believe their issue is resolved when coyote A is removed and that they can now let their toy dogs out at night without human attendance, they can leave free range fowl out, etc... Of course everyone on this forum knows that is false, so folks need to look at a wide range of methods and options including better husbandry of domestics including pets and farm stock and be adaptable to offer all options from non lethal, through typical removal by lethal means.

Okay, back to work, bids to do....

Justin

Re: Coyote hazing [Re: Big Bear Wildlif] #3924709
08/04/13 04:26 PM
08/04/13 04:26 PM
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Since the coyotes we are talking about here are serial killers in every sense of the word, I'm going to guess that we will have to use the same methods on coyotes that the states use on human serial killers. Apparently, yelling and waving your hands doesn't work on humans either.

Re: Coyote hazing [Re: Big Bear Wildlif] #3925073
08/04/13 08:35 PM
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How about Big Bird worked for the president


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Re: Coyote hazing [Re: Big Bear Wildlif] #3925138
08/04/13 09:03 PM
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All joking aside these big eastern coyote or brush wolf some call them are new to most city's in the East . There still learning how to cause damage . Look out west and the problems and attacks on humans even eating people . Them western coyote are just little guys compaired to what's around my area . The next 20 years it's hard to say where it's headed if control is not kept . It's best for the coyote and humans we do keep them under control and fear of man set Inplace . These wolves are moving south now wait till they get a good old taste of the easy life in the bread basket . 2014 full protection of wolves will be on the ballot up for vote for the Michigan voters if it passes I truly feel sorry for the wolves because they will no longer left to us to manage and have are protection


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Re: Coyote hazing [Re: Big Bear Wildlif] #3925176
08/04/13 09:15 PM
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Allowing people to vote with their heart and bypassing game managers who are out in the field, is in my humble opinion, a great disservice to the animals as well as the public. Wisconsin is talking about doubling the wolf kill next year. We killed 117 wolves and never dented the population.

Re: Coyote hazing [Re: Big Bear Wildlif] #3925335
08/04/13 10:31 PM
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Does Conn. allow the use of supressors?


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Re: Coyote hazing [Re: Big Bear Wildlif] #3925566
08/05/13 06:22 AM
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Hd, Thanks for your input. These folks want some one else to handle their problems, they run from it and I can't sit and wait for it to show up. I may go through the motions to satisfy the DEEP. Then they can go for the permit. Newhouse we can't use suppressors that I know of.


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Re: Coyote hazing [Re: Big Bear Wildlif] #3925594
08/05/13 07:17 AM
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Makes sense Bigbear. Always makes things a bit more complicated in these situations.

Good luck with it, hope something lines out.

Re: Coyote hazing [Re: Big Bear Wildlif] #3926715
08/05/13 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted By: Big Bear Wildlif
Hd, Thanks for your input. These folks want some one else to handle their problems, they run from it and I can't sit and wait for it to show up. I may go through the motions to satisfy the DEEP. Then they can go for the permit. Newhouse we can't use suppressors that I know of.


Suppressors are legal to use at the range, not for hunting. Good luck with DEEP, got an ADC friend who hasn't been authorized for out-of-season yote/fox termination in the last 14 years. Our fur bearers are too "valuable" according to the head biologists.


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Re: Coyote hazing [Re: Big Bear Wildlif] #3927177
08/06/13 12:39 AM
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Been seeing a few coyote running around the city here lately . Today seen one sitting in a guys driveway behind his car just watching the cars drive by not a worry in the world .Last week watched one and took video of him hunting ground hogs in this city park . Both were very healthy looking seemed wierd to me seeing that


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