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So Who Owns US Wildlife Specialists #3953893
08/20/13 05:29 PM
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I don't have a problem per se but I do like to know who I'm doing business with. For example, if Obama owned it, Salys would never let me live it down.

Re: So Who Owns US Wildlife Specialists [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #3953911
08/20/13 05:38 PM
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I have wondered that myself since they are also competing for local PPC ads in many markets and organic listings.

I do however own two similar domains uswildlifecontrol.com and wildlifeservices.us


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Re: So Who Owns US Wildlife Specialists [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #3953965
08/20/13 06:04 PM
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Wouldn't be Bruce Hunt would it?


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Re: So Who Owns US Wildlife Specialists [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #3953978
08/20/13 06:10 PM
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Has to be someone who plans to outsource unless they are one of the few who are nationwide at this juncture, this sounds like a local bait and switch which I've been called for through the folks David mentioned a number of times and refused the work (thanks to tips from folks on here by the way about getting paid and so forth).

877# plus no contact info for location, makes it nearly 100% that this is another referral vendor trying to grab the real estate. Or maybe the HSUS is finally going commando on this industry!

Stay tuned.....

Re: So Who Owns US Wildlife Specialists [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #3954001
08/20/13 06:21 PM
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warrior, that was my first thought but whoever answered the phone said "no".

Justin, if came down to a choice between HSUS and Obama, Salys would be disappointed in my pick.

Re: So Who Owns US Wildlife Specialists [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #3954030
08/20/13 06:41 PM
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Paul, so you called them? They should be willing to at least say who they are huh?

Inquiring minds want to know!

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Re: So Who Owns US Wildlife Specialists [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #3954052
08/20/13 06:51 PM
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You know we could put a stop to all this nonsense if we had a simple regulation.

Anyone who offers in this state must be registered in this state and licensed in this state. Or something to that effect. It is already the case with Pest Control in every state I am aware of even though the Bee Removal sites are in daily violation of it.


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Re: So Who Owns US Wildlife Specialists [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #3954065
08/20/13 06:56 PM
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Yeah, they gave us a job and since we never heard of them we wanted a little more info. I'm not sure the secretary even knew. ( Or she worked for HSUS or Obama )

Re: So Who Owns US Wildlife Specialists [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #3954393
08/20/13 09:08 PM
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I did a WHOIS search for the domain name for the website and the info that is spat out isnt very helpful but the address in a Kalifornia address.



Re: So Who Owns US Wildlife Specialists [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #3954497
08/20/13 09:50 PM
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They have a physical address down here in San Diego. Only reason I know is when their ppc ads started popping up my daily budget was maxed out by 9am.
There main office is a 310 number out of Los Angeles.
I haven't seen their van yet. I have seen a all animal control the same week he opened down here.
I pulled up along side of him and waved with a smile. No response. Pretty funny stuff. Plenty of critters around
Robb I thought you knew the owner of us whatever the heck?

Last edited by Baxter; 08/20/13 09:56 PM.

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Re: So Who Owns US Wildlife Specialists [Re: Baxter] #3954524
08/20/13 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted By: Baxter
Robb I thought you knew the owner of us whatever the heck?


Most of the public information is private.

Baxter Its not Mario out of Chicago!
It's someone else.

They are running organic and even running PPC ads in some markets coast to coast.

Well it is not me or Flick for sure.
Red Ryder any guess's?
I wonder if Trevor knows who they are ?


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Re: So Who Owns US Wildlife Specialists [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #3956777
08/22/13 01:01 AM
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Is it a real company or just a referral service? I am going to drive by the address this week.


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Re: So Who Owns US Wildlife Specialists [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #3957765
08/22/13 03:43 PM
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Aaron, your guess is as good as mine. Just like warrior, I was sure it was Bruce Hunt as he uses us often. I really don't mind referral companies because it's always "one and done" for them but not necessarily for us.

Re: So Who Owns US Wildlife Specialists [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #3958664
08/22/13 09:37 PM
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I think it's Bruce Hunt.


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Re: So Who Owns US Wildlife Specialists [Re: Dave Schmidt] #3959262
08/23/13 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted By: Dave Schmidt
I think it's Bruce Hunt.


Me too ( I got this in a PM)

US WILDLIFE SPECIALISTS.COM
560 South Main St.
Clearfield,UT 84015


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Re: So Who Owns US Wildlife Specialists [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #3959624
08/23/13 11:54 AM
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So do they get a cut of the job? Not sure why they would spend the money. Or do they build a good site and rent it?


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Re: So Who Owns US Wildlife Specialists [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #3959751
08/23/13 12:58 PM
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No they are actually advertising as doing work in your state without the license.
They take the call, sell the inspection, call the guy they find in the phonebook to sub it to, he's expected to pad his fee to get paid.
Crooked all the way around.


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Re: So Who Owns US Wildlife Specialists [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #3960019
08/23/13 03:21 PM
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Sounds good for a crappy operator.


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Re: So Who Owns US Wildlife Specialists [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #3960097
08/23/13 04:07 PM
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I have been doing business with these people for years and I can explain exactly how it works. They have a wonderful website and they do sucker a few in. ( In Wisconsin, people are a little more cautious with their money )

The charge is probably at least double of what most operators would charge, but this is not hidden from the client. They pretty much know how much it's going to cost. Now I hate to admit this, but I have also paid twice as much as I should have for a lot of things; so no, I don't feel bad.

The good part is, that your customers are local, so now they know about you and your business. Baxter hit the nail on the head. Would you rather that we refused to do it and have some moron do it, or would you at least give these people what they have paid so much for?

Do I wish every call came to a business in our area? You bet! Since this will never happen under the free Enterprise system, I'll deal with it the best I can. ( This does not amount to very much business in a year for us anyway )

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08/23/13 07:15 PM
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So the customer pays them and they pay you Paul?


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08/23/13 07:22 PM
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The customer pays them, usually with a credit card. That includes their fee and your first inspection fee. After that You charge the customer as usual. However, they get a % of the entire deal. But after that, the customer knows about you and usually calls you first. Not a real bad deal like Paul said.

Re: So Who Owns US Wildlife Specialists [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #3961048
08/23/13 11:29 PM
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In Bruce Hunt's own words

Making Money With Bruce Hunt Apr 2008 !!

http://www.blubrry.com/wildlifecontrol/217680/making-money-with-bruce-hunt/



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Re: So Who Owns US Wildlife Specialists [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #3961871
08/24/13 01:58 PM
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Yeah, Utah sounds right.
I don't know; most WCO's see it as your competitor stealing work from you, then hiring you at a profit. The license aspect is not germane in Mo., no license required. I'm sooo leery of giving a CC # to an 800 number. Amazed that he gets any business.


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Re: So Who Owns US Wildlife Specialists [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #3963264
08/25/13 11:26 AM
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Bruce was an early innovator who figured out how to make phones ring when few WCO's had web sites or even knew anything about buying PPC ads.
Between 04-07 he built web sites locally for most states , counties and cities. He built a ADC Network for customers to call. He is still out there even today making the phone ring in some markets.

Bruce Hunt and his many domain names still do well in areas that are not established with good online competition. Back then he used a toll free line and sold referrals. I can't imagine selling inspections when its simpler to make your customers phone ring on a regular basis then treat a lead as a one time nugget of gold.

It is very hard to sell you to do an inspection if you already spoke to the same customer. Bruce & Company act as the agent for a customer and has to find someone to solve their problem.

If you don't like Bruce Hunt's presence in your market why not build a better and more informative web site locally and take him off the front page.

I have always tried to keep it local and directly connect the WCO with their potential customer on the first call as much as possible.

Personally I was reluctant to even have a 1-800 number but had to since the calls were coming in no matter how small I made my office number people kept calling me.

Our experiment this summer of using phone transfers to client extensions worked . Its easier to remember three or four digits then get whole phone numbers right.

St Louis 748 SW PA 779 NYC 702 RI 736 LA 715 ATL 725 etc....

My point is customers need to talk to the WCO or their own people on the first call as much as possible.I think the company getting paid for the inspection should be doing the inspection.


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Re: So Who Owns US Wildlife Specialists [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #3966435
08/26/13 09:07 PM
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Interesting...

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