Re: Marten set tutorial
[Re: yukon254]
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12/02/13 08:47 AM
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gibb
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I agree Bushman, length of time is a bigger factor than traps per run. For quick snatch and grab runs the more traps the better. Take the cream and keep moving. Staying on one run for the entire season is hard on the marten. However you can not stock pile marten some years they are there and the next they are not. Jim I agree, all of the big producers I know operate this way. Most guys are done by Christmas. Those with really big lines might have to go until January to cover it all but they are pulling and moving lots of traps. Wish I knew why some years there are more marten than other........ I know two trappers that seem to have good numbers every year ( they get well over 200 every year). Both of those guys are in BC and their traplines are a real mix of habitat.....not the typical heavy spruce country. I think there is a direct correlation between small mammal reproduction like voles and mice to marten reproduction. No voles, no young the following year. Expect the marten to bounce back next year lots of mice and voles this year. Had next to none last year.
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Re: Marten set tutorial
[Re: Bushman]
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12/02/13 12:57 PM
12/02/13 12:57 PM
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mtbadger
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Do marten ever move back into patches of timber in a burn area?
Ordinary men can do extrodinary things....
Always looking for Bridger #3OS and 1.65OS
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Re: Marten set tutorial
[Re: mtbadger]
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12/02/13 01:36 PM
12/02/13 01:36 PM
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yukon254
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Do marten ever move back into patches of timber in a burn area? Some of the best most consistent marten country are old burns.... Jim.....I used to believe that low voles numbers were responsible for marten declines.....I dont anymore.....we have had tons of voles the last few years and few marten.....I think rabbits might be the key in some areas....anywhere I find rabbits I find marten.....where rabbit numbers are low so are marten numbers.....at least in the areas I trap. I am beginning to think that a mixed habitat is conducive to stable populations of marten......most of the biologists I have talked to feel that the best marten habitat is old growth timber.......yet in Yukon old burns or high elevations produce more marten than old growth areas.....yet even these areas seem to have real cycles.....mixed forest country in northern BC doesnt seem to have such drastic cycles......
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Re: Marten set tutorial
[Re: Bushman]
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12/02/13 01:45 PM
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Posts: 52 Colwell Lake, Manitoba
Bravo Bad Back
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I set until i start getting 3 females to 1 male, then i start to pull. I have so much untrapped country surrounding me that large numbers of young of the year filter into my line by the next year. Some years i can go for 3 months before i see that ratio.
Trapline #53 - Split Lake Northern Manitoba
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Re: Marten set tutorial
[Re: Bushman]
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12/02/13 02:08 PM
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I started cutting a new trail this fall along an old burn from 2009 with old growth on one side and burn on the other along a ridge, plenty of rabbits and voles but so far not a single marten..........
I once held the yardstick of another's perfection, I threw it down and carved my own........
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Re: Marten set tutorial
[Re: yukon254]
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12/02/13 02:51 PM
12/02/13 02:51 PM
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white17
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Do marten ever move back into patches of timber in a burn area? Some of the best most consistent marten country are old burns.... Jim.....I used to believe that low voles numbers were responsible for marten declines.....I dont anymore.....we have had tons of voles the last few years and few marten.....I think rabbits might be the key in some areas....anywhere I find rabbits I find marten..... where rabbit numbers are low so are marten numbers..... at least in the areas I trap. I am beginning to think that a mixed habitat is conducive to stable populations of marten......most of the biologists I have talked to feel that the best marten habitat is old growth timber.......yet in Yukon old burns or high elevations produce more marten than old growth areas.....yet even these areas seem to have real cycles.....mixed forest country in northern BC doesnt seem to have such drastic cycles...... Here again I think different areas are different. My area has consistently produced about 10 marten per lineal mile of trail over the last 30 years or so. The last few years are an obvious exception. Anyway, during those 30 some seasons I doubt that I could have snared & shot 6 bunnies a year. I did have good vole pops during that time with probably 'normal' fluctuations. From what I've heard from guys trapping around here, things aren't going to be much, if any, better than they were last year.
Mean As Nails
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Re: Marten set tutorial
[Re: yukon254]
#4148746
12/02/13 03:10 PM
12/02/13 03:10 PM
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northway
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Do marten ever move back into patches of timber in a burn area? Some of the best most consistent marten country are old burns.... Jim.....I used to believe that low voles numbers were responsible for marten declines.....I dont anymore.....we have had tons of voles the last few years and few marten.....I think rabbits might be the key in some areas....anywhere I find rabbits I find marten.....where rabbit numbers are low so are marten numbers.....at least in the areas I trap. I am beginning to think that a mixed habitat is conducive to stable populations of marten......most of the biologists I have talked to feel that the best marten habitat is old growth timber.......yet in Yukon old burns or high elevations produce more marten than old growth areas.....yet even these areas seem to have real cycles.....mixed forest country in northern BC doesnt seem to have such drastic cycles...... I agree. Have voles running across the snowmachine trail there are so many and yet, the marten #'s have continually stayed low. I'm in areas of old burn, new burn, old forest, etc. A real good mix of stuff and pretty much in the the 20 year old burn is where there are the most.
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Re: Trigger positioning?
[Re: Bushman]
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12/03/13 12:29 PM
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alaska viking
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Marten are pretty bold, so I don't think a "special" trigger configuration is needed. Out of habit, I usually leave one wire straight, and the other bent slightly to the side and then about halfway down that wire, put a hockey stick bend. Note: These are for flower pot sets. Boxes get pedals.
Just doing what I want now.
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Re: Trigger positioning?
[Re: Bushman]
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12/03/13 03:17 PM
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Starvalleytrappe
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You'll just get more of a suitcase catch. There bothe gonna work. 120's would be a better choice. But 110's will still kill them. Good luck
Wyoming fur trader
chrismhcc@yahoo.com
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