Lesson in humility by coons
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12/07/13 01:33 PM
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I've been hired by a homeowners association to remove some raccoons that one of the members is feeding. I've been asked not to let the person feeding them see me trapping the coons, but I have permission from the neighbors to set traps on their property. This lady feeds three times a day and I can't get them to stray from their routine. They cruise through the neighbors yards right past my traps with zero interest. I've tried tuna, penut butter, peaches, dog food, cat food,marsh mellows and brownies with no success. If anyone has any tips they wouldn't mind sharing I would really appreciate it. Thanks, Kevin
Third year trapping goals Bobcat 1/10 Cougars 2/0 Coyote 0 Opossum 14/0 Nutria 0 Beaver 0 Raccoon 0 Muskrat 0/10 Mink 0/5 Skunk 3/0
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Re: Lesson in humility by coons
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12/07/13 02:29 PM
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Baxter
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Have you tried drift fencing or some sort of trail set?thats what I would try next
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Re: Lesson in humility by coons
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12/07/13 03:06 PM
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Wow thanks for the flaming buddy. Sorry I wasn't born with the wco skills you obviously were. Some of us have to learn as we go. For anyone else who wants to flame me from behind the secrecy of your keyboard. Save it!I don't need it!
Third year trapping goals Bobcat 1/10 Cougars 2/0 Coyote 0 Opossum 14/0 Nutria 0 Beaver 0 Raccoon 0 Muskrat 0/10 Mink 0/5 Skunk 3/0
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Re: Lesson in humility by coons
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12/07/13 03:13 PM
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Thanks Baxter, I'll look it over and see if that's an option.
Third year trapping goals Bobcat 1/10 Cougars 2/0 Coyote 0 Opossum 14/0 Nutria 0 Beaver 0 Raccoon 0 Muskrat 0/10 Mink 0/5 Skunk 3/0
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Re: Lesson in humility by coons
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12/07/13 04:09 PM
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Are all the yards fenced or open? If fenced you can try to block their holes, otherwise Warrior is right, however untacfully stated. Maybe you can put up some temp fence to block the travel routes. However that will end the secrecy part.
Every kid needs a Dog and a Curmudgeon.
Remember Bowe Bergdahl, the traitor.
Beware! Jill Pudlewski, Ron Oates and Keven Begesse are liars and thiefs!
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Re: Lesson in humility by coons
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12/07/13 04:42 PM
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First mistake taking the job without having complete control, namely the feeding stops. Use some common sense here the coons are completely habituated and nothing you do short of laying in wait with a rifle is going to change that as long as nothing else changes. If you ain't got the balls to demand to be in charge of the removal process then my only suggestion is to try to lure the coons away by going ahead and feeding them yourself. It might take a truckload but without control it's your only option. lol,,,,,is you truck red too??? Some places demand discretion.... May be trap shy?
Ant Man/ Marty 2028 just put your ear to the ground , and follow along
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Re: Lesson in humility by coons
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12/07/13 05:36 PM
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Thanks Albert! That took care of that problem. One of the three adjoining yards are fenced, the rest is open. I've not tried lures, but I'm willing to, not sure if I'll be able to find any locally. Might have to order some. Thanks for the help guys!
Third year trapping goals Bobcat 1/10 Cougars 2/0 Coyote 0 Opossum 14/0 Nutria 0 Beaver 0 Raccoon 0 Muskrat 0/10 Mink 0/5 Skunk 3/0
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Re: Lesson in humility by coons
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12/07/13 05:43 PM
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As far as being trap shy, there is about a dozen of them. I just can't imagine all them having that education, but so far they're teaching me a thing or two.
Third year trapping goals Bobcat 1/10 Cougars 2/0 Coyote 0 Opossum 14/0 Nutria 0 Beaver 0 Raccoon 0 Muskrat 0/10 Mink 0/5 Skunk 3/0
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Re: Lesson in humility by coons
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12/07/13 06:54 PM
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First mistake taking the job without having complete control, namely the feeding stops. Use some common sense here the coons are completely habituated and nothing you do short of laying in wait with a rifle is going to change that as long as nothing else changes. If you ain't got the balls to demand to be in charge of the removal process then my only suggestion is to try to lure the coons away by going ahead and feeding them yourself. It might take a truckload but without control it's your only option. lol,,,,,is you truck red too??? Some places demand discretion.... May be trap shy? Why yes I drive a victory red silverado! Vinke, after all these years on here I think you'd know how I roll. There is discretion and then there's the fools errand of letting the client tie your hands. I'm sure you know the difference as well as I and know when to call a client on their bull or walk.
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Re: Lesson in humility by coons
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12/08/13 12:39 AM
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Thanks Robb, this shouldn't be that bad, but it is frustrating.
Third year trapping goals Bobcat 1/10 Cougars 2/0 Coyote 0 Opossum 14/0 Nutria 0 Beaver 0 Raccoon 0 Muskrat 0/10 Mink 0/5 Skunk 3/0
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Re: Lesson in humility by coons
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12/08/13 09:07 AM
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I think Baxter and Pesky make solid points. I support their concepts and employ those ideas even when not required to, as they are so effective . In ADC there is a constant, there are always mega personality conflicts within associations, block to block, neighbor to neighbor. One neighbor hates the animals they see doing damage and the other feeds them barrels of food, squirrels, chipmunks, coon, you name it. NWCO's are often placed in the middle, so they can't telegraph or share their intentions to remove wildlife when one neighbor has named each and every animal he has been feeding for months. There's no way to convince the guy feeding them that removing his "friends" is the thing to do. NWCO's have to work around obstacles, quietly, with subtlety. If you try "in your face I have the right", better duck.
This happens with beaver just as often. One guy is flooded the other loves the geese. Most of NWCO work is dealing with people, working around pets, etc. If you are given free rein, catching the animals is usually not a problem, but working around people and catching the animals is the challenge.
When animals have a routine, feeding nightly on something they obviously love, food is of no interest. They have it. Blind sets, trails, dens as mentioned, drift fencing, taking the animals moving from A to B is a perfect way to go. Just play the animal's game by intercepting them at a choke point while they are traveling to the bait station with whatever device suits the situation.
I know I sound like a broken record, but after catching 111 bobcats, fox, coon and even coyotes in steel traps, without a drop of lure or bait in 6 weeks thirty years ago, I can attest to the value in trail sets.
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Re: Lesson in humility by coons
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12/08/13 12:33 PM
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I'm still trying to get my head around the original post. I am one of the few, I guess, that actually look forward to jobs like this. They are fun, entertaining, challenging, and usually quite profitable.
I am having trouble with the fact that all of those baits were used and ignored. Our raccoons will clean out the dumpsters at Arbys, Burger King, and Cousins on their way to the dumpster at McDonalds and still be ready for dessert at Baskin Robbins.
I have had a number of these jobs and I always followed their trails backwards until I found suitable locations ( Hopefully between some bushes ) and never had any problem catching them before they got to the feeding area. After all, they are hungry and anticipating food so if they find it without having to walk so far, great!
I have also become used to people feeding animals and no longer get upset about it. I have had customers with 6 inches of animal and bird feed over their entire backyard. I had one house where there was so much feed packed into the soffits that it was dripping out of the vents. I would like to work out a deal with the manufacturers to include one of our business cards in every bag.
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Re: Lesson in humility by coons
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12/08/13 06:16 PM
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Thanks for the ideas, I'll try some of them through out the week.
Third year trapping goals Bobcat 1/10 Cougars 2/0 Coyote 0 Opossum 14/0 Nutria 0 Beaver 0 Raccoon 0 Muskrat 0/10 Mink 0/5 Skunk 3/0
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Re: Lesson in humility by coons
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12/09/13 11:51 AM
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I used to get really upset when people stole a trap, let something go, fed the animals etc. having a background in fur trapping, but had to do a reset. When the college kids turned the squirrels loose it's not really a problem, it's called job security, endless problems, continuous issues, trapping forever. It's ever more exciting catching the culprit with trap in hand about to open a door!
Last edited by Jim Comstock; 12/13/13 08:03 PM.
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