Beaver under ice
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I posted this on the main forum,but thought some of the guys on this forum may be interested in our under ice beaver methods.We spend about 20 minutes or less setting up a beaver house.These houses were located by aerial survey in Nov,and the trails were made in advance to setting and houses checked to make sure they still had beaver. We set 6 houses in just over 2 hours on Mar 03 and checked on Mar 09. On the march 09 check we made it an educational field trip for trappers,conservation officers and the general public and kids.
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Re: Beaver under ice
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The ice was thicker than normal this year-about 14 inches in the runs.We wound up with 14 beaver out of 18 traps set. A couple houses were re-set for a second check then pull.
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Re: Beaver under ice
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We had lots of cold weather this year White,from early December until about a week ago it was mostly minus 40c all winter.The thickness of the ice really doesn't matter unless it freezes to the bottom,you just need a longer bar and chain.
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Re: Beaver under ice
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Do you cover the holes and bank them up with snow White? Chiseling thru more than 6 inches of ice is a pain allright.
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Re: Beaver under ice
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From now until april is usually the best time for under ice trapping as we will soon get a crust on the snow and the ice should not be forming as much at night now. Maybe you would have to wait a couple weeks later there. One problem we encounter is the ice hung up near the house and no water near the house.We usually just leave those for seed but if you find water near the feed bed you can snare them there.
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Re: Beaver under ice
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the problem in my neck of the woods would not be the thickness of the ice though I do see some 40 inch thick on a cold year it is the depth of water in front of the houses tends to be as much as 6-15 feet deep where the runs come out. It would be real nice if I could use coni stabilizers like that for sure. I have two stabilizers I seldom am able to use and when I have the proper depth I tend to have them laying at home. Nice looking catch there though Boco it is hard to tell but the set with four conis 2 in back of 2 others how far apart are they to avoid a set off of all 4 traps by 1 big beaver
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Re: Beaver under ice
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3 beaver out of the 4 and 3 out of the 3 side by side.All traps are set on the bottom in the entrance run. You only need to set one hole as all the beaver use all their holes to both exit and enter the house. In winter beaver move slow when entering and exiting the house but follow the entrance run.When they encounter an obstruction in the run they detour around and go back in the run.Beaver are caught both entering and leaving.
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Re: Beaver under ice
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If you look at the pics close you may be able to see the block sticks between the traps that are set side by side-this prevents one beaver from setting off the trap beside it.The ones in front are just far enough apart to prevent one caught beaver from firing the trap in front. You can see one house the water comes almost to the top of the trapstands.In deeper water we just use dry tamarack poles as a trapstand,about 10% of the houses will be too deep for the metal trapstands. Most guys use the tamarack poles,but for efficiency in setting we made some stands a foot longer than the commercial ones that could be used in about 90%of the colonys here.
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Re: Beaver under ice
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yup poles is what I tend to use when using conis through the ice but it is spruce trapping the flats we have to haul them with us as there is no lumber out there and the beaver are living on lily roots. I see the blocking sticks just not visualizing it properly I guess
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Re: Beaver under ice
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yup poles is what I tend to use when using conis through the ice but it is spruce trapping the flats we have to haul them with us as there is no lumber out there and the beaver are living on lily roots. I see the blocking sticks just not visualizing it properly I guess otterman, have you ever hung your traps with wire? Thats how I do it.....seldom ever use poles or stabilizers of any kind.....just hang 330s in the runs just off the bottom.
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Re: Beaver under ice
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yukon yes I have done this as well and it does work just not as well as when things are stabilized. I have also done so when the conis were baited which works pretty good too
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Re: Beaver under ice
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To understand where to put the block sticks-take two 330's side by side close together,now where would you put a stick to prevent a neck caught beaver from twisting itself around(traps are solid)and firing the other trap with its back leg or tail.Since you don't know which direction the beaver will be going you need two. I always set beaver traps this way(multiples)whether at the den entrance,a dam break,or a wide channel under ice as well as open water.Why only catch one when you can catch 3 or 4 at the same set at the same check.
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Re: Beaver under ice
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When you have the plan,equipment and preparation,it is really quite efficient.The best thing is you don't have to carry anything-ride right up to the worksite and drive away with a load of beaver. I realize everywhere is different,but some of these methods may be useful there with some modifications.
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