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Re: Pipe strengthening longsprings . . . NEW method [Re: foxx1] #5126898
07/17/15 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted By: foxx1
May be Sleepy Creek would do that to ther 1.5 long spring!!!!!!!!!! WEAK/SLOW Trap


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Re: Pipe strengthening longsprings . . . NEW method [Re: GrantRichie] #5127184
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What size pipe do I need for #1 victor traps??

Re: Pipe strengthening longsprings . . . NEW method [Re: GrantRichie] #5128168
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Re: Pipe strengthening longsprings . . . NEW method [Re: GrantRichie] #7701883
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Re: Pipe strengthening longsprings . . . NEW method [Re: The Beav] #7716701
11/13/22 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
Great Idea.


Well . . .maybe.

Great consideration should be given here because there are several different aspects to this method that should be addressed.
The metal is different in the springs is than it is in the rest of the trap.
Spring steel is heat treated.
The carbon content is different in the springs. It has to be.

Whenever you are welding, you are melting steel to 'some' degree.
At the spot of the weld, when welding . . . you are at 1500 degrees f
And when you heat spring steel at that temp, it can become brittle, which can cause cracking under pressure.
A long spring , when set , is under pressure.
When you do this, you messing with the temper of the steel.
IMO, it looks good at first glance, but there are a few things, (again) to consider.
Unless you have the means to retreat it, I personally wouldn't do it.

An argument can always be found, considering the different welders as well as different welding processes .
Yet the facts remain.
The best and quickest way is just to re-arch your springs using a 3 lb sledge hammer and a steel rod.
However, if you're considering welding pipe beneath / inside a long spring. . .use as little weld as possible .
Just enough to hold it

I have some Blake and Lamb and Newhouse long springs that I've used for over 30 years.
I've never had to re-work the springs. . .ever !
So if you're having to re-do springs, what kind of traps are you using ?
Steel today, is not what it was , say 30-40 years ago.


LT G
( long spring user since 1970 )





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