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|  Re: Pipe strengthening longsprings . . . NEW method
[Re: GrantRichie]
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Trappers are cheap and we like to tinker. It's who we are. 
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|  Re: Pipe strengthening longsprings . . . NEW method
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I love to tinker and weld on traps, but have to play devil's advocate here.....
 Why not just either buy a new set of springs or toss/replace the trap?  Seems that by the time you mess with cutting the pipe and tacking it in place you could just spend a few $ and replace the springs just as easy.  OR, just replace the trap....at approx $20 for a new #3/4 DLS cat trap that might get you a several hundred dollar cat it seems like the better time investment is to not mess with weak springs.
 
 That said, I will try the pipe strengthening method too...just to satisfy my curiousity.  Great post...Thanks!
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|  Re: Pipe strengthening longsprings . . . NEW method
[Re: GrantRichie]
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Grant will pit pans fit #4 jumps? 
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|  Re: Pipe strengthening longsprings . . . NEW method
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Grant will pit pans fit #4 jumps?I don't own any jumps so I can't say.  I would call the guy that makes them, Ed Medvetz 888-215-9249.  I know he has a quite a few different kits to fit a lot of different traps. |  |  |  
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|  Re: Pipe strengthening longsprings . . . NEW method
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Grant will pit pans fit #4 jumps?Yes, i had some #4 jumps with pits 
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|  Re: Pipe strengthening longsprings . . . NEW method
[Re: GrantRichie]
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You shorten the DLS bracket. It makes the #3 jumps a good trap. Use a on #4 as is. 
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|  Re: Pipe strengthening longsprings . . . NEW method
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Reading these posts...leads me to believe that some may be pipe fitters...because fitters know everything... just ask em! Great thread...very good idea Grant!X2  I had a pipe fitter for the union teach me how weld, properly cut even angles on pipe, ect and he had so much info it was almost overwhelming haha. This is an awesome idea though!  I think this is definitely article worthy in a magazine.  There are hundreds of longsprings just sitting around people sheds (including mine) because the springs were too weak. |  |  |  
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|  Re: Pipe strengthening longsprings . . . NEW method
[Re: GrantRichie]
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You ruined those springs by welding on them. The heat transfer will take most if not all the hardness and "Memory" out of them. Notice I didn't say anything about Tempering. 
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You ruined those springs by welding on them. The heat transfer will take most if not all the hardness and "Memory" out of them. Notice I didn't say anything about Tempering. No not ruined, though they were before I started welding on them. |  |  |  
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|  Re: Pipe strengthening longsprings . . . NEW method
[Re: GrantRichie]
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Those springs weren't ruined by welding on them. It's only a small tac with no real heat transfer to the spring It Isn't like you are running a cover pass over the spring. Us pipe fitter/ welders will understand this.If your so scared of ruining the springs with heat just wrap a few turns of wire through the pipe and around the spring and your good to go.
 
 Grant that's a great fix for all those weak long springs. Since you posted this I have used some cold roll and  I have used sections of re bar. IT's a great fix for those weak springs.
 
 Thanks for sharing.
 
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|  Re: Pipe strengthening longsprings . . . NEW method
[Re: GrantRichie]
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I read this post a few days ago & did the same thing, works great, been having pull outs before, now I've had none, the critters there when I check, glad you posted this Grant!! 
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|  Re: Pipe strengthening longsprings . . . NEW method
[Re: GrantRichie]
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 As to this memory thing. Big Bob Is correct to a point  but once you add the piece of pipe or what ever you chose to use your creating  a new memory to that spring. 
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|  Re: Pipe strengthening longsprings . . . NEW method
[Re: GrantRichie]
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TTT again for those that missed it, works like a charm, great post Grant!! 
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