Re: Squirrel eyes
[Re: 22mag]
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04/09/14 11:33 AM
04/09/14 11:33 AM
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Indiana
randythetrapper
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Indiana
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My cousins use an ear of corn and they catch squirrels like crazy to train their dogs.
Thanks, Randy
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Re: Squirrel eyes
[Re: 22mag]
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04/10/14 08:44 AM
04/10/14 08:44 AM
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Monroeville NJ
Jonesie
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Not all jobs can be forced contrary to popular belief. And as a matter of fact I only force maybe half my jobs at all, but that is me, and may not be right for every one. Each their own so to speak. I will be going over the reasons I don't, based on habitats and behavior in certain phases that squirrels go through, in Oct at the WCT in Kentucky.
But as to the way the first question asked, the entry points on a building is the eye appeal for location, Every time the animal goes in and out of the building, it is at that hole, or if other animals are looking on the building, they will go to the hole, although he meant to ask about eye appeal in and around the trap to pull the squirrel into the trap. As SGS stated taste and smell for cages is very important. and if the bait does its job or the lure trail, eye appeal is not thought of, yet in a sense the way I bait my traps there will be eye appeal, meaning I give alittle bait out front of the trap, some just inside then on the pan and behind, so when the animal tastes the bait and likes it then see's the bait inside the eye appeal is there. also many using the seeds and nuts are doing the same, as the nut is smell, taste and eye appeal. If a bait and or lure is not a taste smell type Then I believe eye appeal is a great added pull inside the trap. The reason is a non taste bait or lure needs to be placed in the back of the trap, as per most of the trap line baits and lures that is used for foot traps, Meaning, catch the animal before it gets to the bait. With cages there is a negative with the trap, for example, fox will circle the cage trap and not go in yet will not hesitate to dive into a brush pile. so the negative of a cage, can be turned to a positive by placing a eye appeal in the back of the cage trap many times.
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Re: Squirrel eyes
[Re: 22mag]
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04/10/14 05:00 PM
04/10/14 05:00 PM
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mequon, wisconsin
Paul Winkelmann
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22mag, it's almost like you guys on this site are prophetic. I really don't recall ever having this problem with squirrels. But I do now that you mentioned it. They even let me know it by leaving their pine cone clippings on my well baited cages!
P.S. Don't tell me to bait with pine cones; I already tried and those pine trees just will not fit in any cages that I own!
Last edited by Paul Winkelmann; 04/10/14 05:03 PM.
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Re: Squirrel eyes
[Re: 22mag]
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04/10/14 07:36 PM
04/10/14 07:36 PM
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NH
sgs
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NH
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Around here we call that a population reduction job. lol Very popular.
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Re: Squirrel eyes
[Re: 22mag]
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04/10/14 08:55 PM
04/10/14 08:55 PM
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Monroeville NJ
Jonesie
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I look at it this way, most of the time our animals are not hungry. sure in bad weather, or in the example that Phil gave, the animals will not have the food at hand, and will eat because of hunger. But most are well fed, with the spring summer and fall food is everywhere.
I bring the dogs in at night and put down a bowl of dry dog food. They take a few nipples and go lay down, Few mins later, Now I take the scraps from dinner and go over put it in the bowl and the dogs can't eat if fast enough.
Back in the mid 80's I was playing with making baits and lures. I sat and thought about the example I just gave. and a light bulb came on. The next 2 baits I made was for squirrels, (What else would I be thinking about LOL) and was based on eye appeal, smell and taste. Got ur done and No Moes. I found that the Idea worked. For cages I want a bait that is not really a food, but that something that an animal would like to have. Like me, A hot chocolate chip cookie with nuts, and a glass of ICE COLD milk, I have to have it if I smell or see it.
With cages, the cage is a eye attractor but it is also a negative. so by placing a taste that the animal would like to have, different than what they are use to, will a lot of the times take the mind off the negative and place on a want to have it. A can of sardines or cat food in the back of a trap for 3 days in 90 degrees may not be a great want to have, to a coon, so they will go to the side take a big smell and say ok curiosity is done. The eye appeal of the can may be enough to bring the coon back around to go in, then again maybe not. as with squirrels, I believe their eyes and ears are used first then smell. again look at a bird feeder hanging in the tree. when filled the squirrels can wait to get to it, but if it goes empty then they could care less and work the ground, fill it and they are all over it again.
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