Re: Making Muskrat Floats
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Yes, carrots work well too .
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Re: Making Muskrat Floats
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Looks like a oil slick on the water. That's a good thing.
Good luck to you.
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Re: Making Muskrat Floats
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That would work just fine.
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Re: Making Muskrat Floats
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If anyone has watched rats walk on floats much one thing comes into light pretty quickly. Rats skirt the edges...like most any prey species. The gap between the pan of those traps and the edge is huge. Kind of like making a 12" mink pocket and tossing a small trap dead center.
Another thing that comes into light when watching rats on floats is how many times they walk up and down the plank of most of these floats without getting caught. I watched one rat do 5 laps back and forth, jumped in and swam off when two traps were on the plank.
Like mink trapping, dont look at the pocket (or float in this case) look at the pan and the wall relationship. They have to step on the pan. And a dinky #1 guard trap is a huge handicap.
I have also watched rats step all over traps and trap pans without firing them...some mine and freshly tuned. Makes you scratch your head and go back to the drawing board.
The above floats miss lots of rats. Photo #1 more so than the later. Not a problem if you have rats in bulk, but an issue when you don't. x10 what Calvin said....I like to build as narrow a possible with trap 90 degrees to whats shown for simple reason its easyer to skinny up the floats w/o having levers in the way.....another thing that will catch more rats on floats is using drywall screw up from bottom as it holds your carrot better than a finish nail head.......another advanced feature is to use small 1x2 spacers or custom cut spacer blocks that will allow stacking floats with set or locked open traps via a hog ring, so they can be stacked w/o firing traps settng on your board.....setting 2 traps per float is a huge time killer compared just slapping down pre set traps or even locked open hog rings.....i saw a fancy trap locking method once where a guy had a counterbored hole and offset to that hole bout 50% of dia off side of that hole, anothher hole c'bored but with washer in it held down a screw.....it was set up so crossframe pointy end of trap slide under washer and locked trap in place, even when your board was carried sideways, was real slick if guy could duplicate it......another speed float trick is using metal fence posts w/ triangle for stakes as allows you to carry 2 floats/1 stake each hand w/ float held up by triangle to the slew.....to be really effective id cut down the triangles so not as much tangle mess to store on board your outfit
If you are considering yourself to be someone of influence and importance, just try ordering someone elses dog around sometime.
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Re: Making Muskrat Floats
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500 rats in one day? just wondering how many floats a guy has out to do that? but if you have a better bait and float why arent you sharing it? i ve shared mine. where are you pix? Had to re read this and laugh. Fossil's not much of a pic kind of guy. He could care less if anyone believed him or not. People who know him know of his extreme catches for decades. The 500 rats in a day was with he and his son out of the same truck...so a team if you will. I/m not the pic kind of guy either. Have no idea how to post one...and frankly don't much care to learn at this point. As for sharing, I think I/ve done quite abit of that over the years. Too much in fact. I/m a slow learner but I am learning. I was in SD that spring and KNOW for a fact that fossil and sons catch was real deal, and havent ever seen anything but truth from any of Calvins or fossils posts, and ill add huntgod to that list also......some others I dont know whether part b.s. or truth.....but I do know some on here who do stretch the truth by a fair degree...LOL
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Re: Making Muskrat Floats
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use a good coon lure when rat trapping-the results will amaze you......just dont use on your floats....sawdust and fiberglass splinters galore!
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Re: Making Muskrat Floats
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Floats and stools seem like there a spring thing. Yes you can catch some rats on floats and stools at other times of the year but It's mostly a spring thing.
You need to catch your rats before you get Ice. Trapping dens and runs and setting on the huts. Look for fed beds and rat toilets and set them.
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Re: Making Muskrat Floats
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http://thebeav.us/stools.htmIn some situations a stool will work better then a float. When you have large cattail marshes and you don't have much If any water fluxions I prefer a stool to a float.
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Re: Making Muskrat Floats
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What do you mean Spruce ? Lathe set ?
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Re: Making Muskrat Floats
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Here On my line In WI you could set a float or a stool In the fall right next to a hut or next to the bank. And you would be checking empty sets for a long time. I have tried It 100s of times since I have over 400 stools just sitting around when I'm In WI. Now Out In the Dakotas It's a different story. Work fairly well In the fall but really shine In the spring.
Since we don't have areal spring season I'm not sure how they would work here.
I also used that florescent green flagging and It worked really good. It must be the eye appeal. Because once I caught a rat the other rats would come up and chew off the rest of It. Last spring I actually had rats chew off the PVC pipe. They sure liked that Lennons rat all call.
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Re: Making Muskrat Floats
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They are a killer set In the spring In the Dakotas. I'm pretty sure that's all most trappers use out there.
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