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Re: Tick Borne Diseases Got One? [Re: ] #5074232
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Remember where you leave your outdoor clothing. These ticks can climb off and can live for up to two years and multiple frost cycles. Check the seams of pants for hiding spots. It has been know the members of the family have been striken and never went into the woods.

Re: Tick Borne Diseases Got One? [Re: ] #5076109
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Like all the others are saying you can get a whole host of things from ticks. Mine was on for no more that 3 hours on my back in bed. The next morning the bite area was turning purple and then the infected area started to die, looked more like frost bite than a tick bite after 12 hours. Dr. did not even draw blood. 6 weeks of anti's and spending the first week unable to move more than 10 feet from a bathroom and I was over it. Now I go every summer for blood tests. If you get bit get tested.


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Re: Tick Borne Diseases Got One? [Re: ] #5079317
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I haven't been bit in a couple of years at least. Those little deer ticks feel like a lit match when they dig in! And they leave a mark for a while too. I eat a clove of garlic as soon as I wake up every morning. Best natural antibiotic out there. My joints and tendons used to hurt real bad, so bad that it was hard to pull a ladder off the rack. I started the garlic thing and I feel great!

Re: Tick Borne Diseases Got One? [Re: Mike Flick] #5080167
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Originally Posted By: Mike Flick
I haven't been bit in a couple of years at least. Those little deer ticks feel like a lit match when they dig in! And they leave a mark for a while too. I eat a clove of garlic as soon as I wake up every morning. Best natural antibiotic out there. My joints and tendons used to hurt real bad, so bad that it was hard to pull a ladder off the rack. I started the garlic thing and I feel great!


You take it like a pill or chew it up?

Re: Tick Borne Diseases Got One? [Re: ] #5080630
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Chew it up and down the hatch! Don't do it on a completely empty stomach, and have some OJ or something close by to get the taste out of your mouth. Its pretty nasty stuff, but way worth it!

Re: Tick Borne Diseases Got One? [Re: ] #5080697
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Wallace I have the same thing your wife has the symptoms started about 1999 but wasn't diagnosed until 2002. To say it sucks is a gross understatement it has affected my health both physically and mentally and unless you have it you won't understand.

Re: Tick Borne Diseases Got One? [Re: ] #5081071
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Originally Posted By: Mtwildman
Originally Posted By: mudtracker
I wonder if there will ever be vaccines developed for these tick borne diseases?


They are working on them. I believe they are close to one for dogs. Probably have to do animal testing before getting approved.


There used to be a vaccine to prevent Lyme's Disease in Humans, but unbelievably they let the license run out. They cited "lack of interest" as the reason for discontinuing it. I can't for the life of me understand why somebody has not brought this back into production.

They have a Lyme vaccine for dogs and my vet told me it is the same thing as the human vaccine. I begged him to let me have a third dose to "take home" when he treated my dogs. My one Lab had Lyme's and was cleared of all symptoms within two days. That was five years ago and he's never had any lasting effects.
He told me flat out that he takes it himself, but won't give it to others outside his family.


"Vaccine Information

The vaccine for Lyme disease is no longer available. It was discontinued by the manufacturer in 2002, citing low demand. People who were vaccinated are no longer protected against Lyme disease, as protection was not long lasting. There are vaccines available for dogs but no vaccine available for cats."


Lyme's Vaccine:
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/lyme/default.htm

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Re: Tick Borne Diseases Got One? [Re: ] #5081079
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The first and only licensed vaccine against Lyme disease was developed by SmithKline Beecham (now GlaxoSmithKline). Given in a three-dose series, the vaccine had an unusual method of action: it stimulated antibodies that attacked the Lyme bacteria in the tick’s gut as it fed on the human host, before the bacteria were able to enter the body. This was about 78% effective in protecting against Lyme infection after all three doses of the vaccine had been given.

The vaccine, called LYMERix, was licensed in 1998. By 2002 SmithKline Beecham had withdrawn it from the market, and Pasteur Mérieux Connaught decided not to apply for a license for its own Lyme vaccine candidate, despite having already demonstrated its efficacy in a Phase III clinical trial. Today there are no vaccines available to prevent Lyme disease, and it is unlikely that any will be licensed in the near future. The debut and subsequent withdrawal of the Lyme disease vaccine has lasting implications for future vaccine development and use.


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Re: Tick Borne Diseases Got One? [Re: ] #5081084
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My vet said the lyme vac for dogs is a crap shoot- may work may not- let's the owners make the call.

The reason there has not been more significant treatment options developed is because lyme affects a relatively small portion of the population. Therefore the R&D funds are not available to develop new treatments/ cures. Pharmaceutical companies develop and sell drugs to make money, if the clientele base is small they have no incentive.

Almost 20 years I have had lyme- most years not too bad. Several flare ups of notable proportion...

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Re: Tick Borne Diseases Got One? [Re: Beaglador] #5081088
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Originally Posted By: Beaglador


The reason there has not been more significant treatment options developed is because lyme affects a relatively small portion of the population.


I know dozens of people with Lyme's Disease. I don't know anyone with AIDS.


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Re: Tick Borne Diseases Got One? [Re: Fairchild #17] #5082028
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Originally Posted By: Fairchild #17
Originally Posted By: Beaglador


The reason there has not been more significant treatment options developed is because lyme affects a relatively small portion of the population.


I know dozens of people with Lyme's Disease. I don't know anyone with AIDS.


When you have been in the " tick field of research" you know hundreds of people.

Problem is there are many other tick pathogens that are transmitted with in seconds of the bite.

Deer ticks have an unusual mouth piece with backward shaped barbs that are inplanted into the skin and in 3 hours are cemented, therefore the head pieces remain attached with improper removal.

Re: Tick Borne Diseases Got One? [Re: ] #5083375
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I keep trying to catch something.


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Re: Tick Borne Diseases Got One? [Re: ] #5083695
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Look at the engorged female and all the males viening for her. She is on top of the trap area lid

Re: Tick Borne Diseases Got One? [Re: Fairchild #17] #5084753
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Originally Posted By: Fairchild #17
Originally Posted By: Beaglador


The reason there has not been more significant treatment options developed is because lyme affects a relatively small portion of the population.


I know dozens of people with Lyme's Disease. I don't know anyone with AIDS.



Good point Fairchild- same here. Still my understanding has to due with the global population generally speaking- there are not enough people making enough noise securing the right interest for major research/ treatment development. I sincerely hope this changes- soon.

Re: Tick Borne Diseases Got One? [Re: Northof50] #5085868
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Originally Posted By: Northof50
Look at the engorged female and all the males viening for her. She is on top of the trap area lid



Hmmmmmm......makes you wonder if a pheromone trap would be effective at controlling the population?
Something similar to a Japanese Beetle trap would be so easy to set up in fields around your property.

Well, I'm off to be a millionaire......


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Re: Tick Borne Diseases Got One? [Re: Fairchild #17] #5087724
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Well, guess who's getting treated again. Felt really lousy the last couple days. Just about the same time period and have been hunting the same areas as before. I really feel lousy.

When I told the Doc my symptoms and prior history he put me right on Doxy. Hopefully I'll feel better soon.

Moosetrot

Re: Tick Borne Diseases Got One? [Re: ] #5089450
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Every morning it's the same routine for me, take two 7.5 Norco Drink a cup of coffee and wait for them to take effect, and then start my day (these are the good days). Some days it's all day in bed. Did have my third uv light treatment yesterday for this round of treatment, so the simptoms should start to back off a little.

Haven't read this thread for a while as it is depressing for me, 6 years of this illness weights heavy on a person


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Re: Tick Borne Diseases Got One? [Re: Michigan Trappin] #5090844
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The only problem with the uv treatment is that it doesn't get deep in your tissue or lymph nodes. Use the Beck Protocol at home. Very similar to uv. Same principal, but gets deeper. You can spend 1000. to buy it from SOTA instruments on line. Use it religiously every day and in 3-6 months you will be feeling way better than you could ever imagine. Worked for me and others I know.

Re: Tick Borne Diseases Got One? [Re: ] #5090875
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I will look into that

Ok. I went to thier web site. Which product (s) do you use?

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