Re: shocking live bat vid coming soon
[Re: travellintrapper]
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08/05/15 08:23 AM
08/05/15 08:23 AM
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must have been really shocking... Let me guess, you were carrying 2 in each unprotected hand, and 3 in your mouth... Spoiler alert....
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Re: shocking live bat vid coming soon
[Re: Peskycritter]
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08/10/15 08:17 AM
08/10/15 08:17 AM
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Eaten,
Of course rabies is real, as is histoplasmosis. The threat however in rabies is limited to contact and the video would suggest if you are in the attic and turn over insulation and there happened to be a rabid bat among the healthy bats, you would get attacked and you are rolling the dice on your life....
Do you think that is an accurate representation as a professional of bat rabies risk potential?
There is factual information and there is fear mongering, each person can judge for themselves and I know the way most lean. I worked with rabies for many years in the field in other wild mammals in North America, the facts still remained the same, must have contact of certain type for it to be an issue, however those mammals could make a run on you when sick if they exhibited the aggressive form versus the "dumb" sit and die form.
In terms of histoplasmosis, since CDC fact sheets show so much of the population has contracted or been exposed to histoplasmosis from bird droppings, bat droppings, chicken manure, etc.... this isn't shocking in the least, I'm sure if they tested your average farm kid by age 14 myself included they would show signs of having been exposed, however we all know the facts are that histo typically has no threat unless someone is autoimmune compromised, elderly, or put themselves in a high exposure situation like crawling through their own attic without a respirator on when it is full of guano or bird droppings and has the environmental aspects required for the fungus to propagate.
Note as well, the narration of the video which seems way to clear to not indicate the operator isn't wearing any mask or ppe...
I don't think this operator could sell the risk of histoplasmosis accurately due to the client seeing them enter and inspect the attic space and walk among the insulation without a proper ppe system.
Just my .02 though, heck I realize how many just plain find this kind of thing fun, and how many take the disease aspects in any homeowners brain and run with them all the way to the bank....
Our society has raised bats to a mythical ability to inoculate us with the rabies virus. Most of what I've heard people told lately is against CDC's own list of possibilities and shows that people are being "sold" rabies and histo to get the job.
Fact is one thing, fiction for sales is quite another.
Not sure the video needed a mention of rabies, he was going along well discussing how the previous person put mouse poison in there which wouldn't resolve the bat issue. Then sees an interesting tidbit of footage of a bat entering the insulation.
Then decides he should indicate if he flips over the insulation a flurry of rabid bats might cut his life short.
Hmmmm.... To each his own I guess. It is the internet and better yet, youtube....
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Re: shocking live bat vid coming soon
[Re: Peskycritter]
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08/10/15 10:59 AM
08/10/15 10:59 AM
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Paul Winkelmann
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You guys can provide more laughs being serious than most comedians trying to be funny. Pesky should have pointed out the Contrac was
the wrong bait for killing bats. You need the kind that is shaped like flying insects. I never have to mention the word "rabies" to
bat customers because that's all they can talk about. Wisconsin is kind of famous for bat rabies, what with having the only living
survivor. My favorite is the grumpy old guy ( Sounds like me ) that got bit by the rabid bat. He didn't get rabies but the bat became
grumpy. That will teach 'em to mess with us old guys. I think that explains why, as Justin so aptly wrote, bats will not attack me
despite the fact they are diseased. They don't mind the rabies; they just don't want to get grumpy.
Last edited by Paul Winkelmann; 08/10/15 12:34 PM.
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Re: shocking live bat vid coming soon
[Re: Peskycritter]
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08/10/15 01:57 PM
08/10/15 01:57 PM
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Throw Back, To clarify, I definitely address any concern homeowners have in a solid discussion, as you say, facts, not scare tactics including the low incidence in wild populations of bats. Nothing wrong with discussing disease issues with homeowners, in fact we should as professionals be knowledgeable due to what Wink said, which is that every homeowner has already googled themselves into a frenzy. Any wildlife species I've worked with has the potential to kill you through a variety of methods, parasites, viruses, direct bites, etc... How we handle those as NWCO's says a lot about our integrity. Facts not fiction, a great way to run a business! 
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