What are some pros and cons of this trap, for those of you who have used them? I am playing with the idea of ordering a few in the near future to see how I like them, but I'm still undecided. I've read the argument on here about the "dead spot" on the pan. Some say it's true and some say it's a bunch of B.S. The trigger system and both jaws being pinned down will definitely take some getting used to.

Is the pan tension consistent and easily adjusted to 2.5 or 3 pounds?

im new

so take this as you will. but the only con I see with the trap is that it cuts harder into your hand when setting because of the wire levers.


yup! think that about does it!

I bought a dozen this year, out of the box pan tension was way to heavy for me, but it is a well built trap, I bought the setters with them, makes them easier to set they are very strong, nothing gets out of them. Oh and they are really easy to bed with the locked down jaw.

Did you get the tension down?

yeah they adjust down, once you drop tension they get a little touchy to set. I took tension down because I run a mixed line and was tired of seeing fox tracks on my pans.

I love MB650's. There are a few adjustments I make, but don't have any pictures of them. I do however adjust my pan until it falls on its own. I have caught coon, grey and red fox, cats, and coyotes with no problems thus far.

I adjust my pan the same as above.I keep hearing about this dead spot but like a guy said before.Set one and push on that so called dead spot then lets talk:) They are some great traps build like a tank.

I have seen the "dead spot" pushed on by a mans hand, he pushed so hard that the hand holding the trap bobbed up and down. I wouldn't do it, I don't use 650's either.

I'm not a pro by any means but I have a couple fully modified 650s and won't hesitate to buy more. Like stated above though, outta the box I'd say my pan tension was 6+ pounds. I lowerd the pan tension and they work just fine for me. As far as the wire cutting into my hands when setting, we'll all I can say about that is that I'm not man enough to even think about setting these like that. I just step on the levers to set them when they are 4 coiled. Seem to be good traps in my book.

I have one with a jaw that will not lay flat and I am not sure how to adjust the trap to get the jaw down. Any one know how?

I have some. The pan tension is easy to adjust, and I've caught coyotes, and I've caught grinners and coons. They didn't land on that dead spot I reckon.

Regardless of what is said about them , after many years of reading about them on here, and using them a few myself they seem to catch their fair share of critters

What is the story on the dead spot? I just ordered two dozen of them and this is the first time I have heard of the "dead spot".

I like the way someone put it once on here: "Yeah, there's a dead spot. Animals step on it, and they end up dead."

I run them and like them

Pleasure / easy to bed with two power jaws
Pan sits below jaws
Easy to adjust pan tension and stay consistent
No bent dogs (dogless)
heavy, well built trap
works well in freeze / snow conditions

No complaints from me

I am in the minority here. I despise them. they are built very very tough. I just hate the trigger mechanism. I hate setting them.

They are a copy of the sterling mj600 but the sterling pan is much much better

Not saying its a bad trap just saying what its a copy of

650's are a great trap, I got 2 dz & plan on getting more, I go after yotes & cats mostly & the pan tension is fine out of the box, I have gotten a couple where I had to loosen the pan bolt a little, other than that no problems!

I have them also and love them. Easier to bed with both jaws locking down. Only dead spot I know is when the animal steps on the pan. I have the hand setters for them but just step on the levers to set them.