Is this a real Newhouse barrel used for shipping traps or a homemade one? I have never seen one so I don't know. Bringing a good price with a few days to go. Here's the item# 161935846753. Thanks Steve

Looks legit! Would be nice for a zero collector or anyone else for that matter. Hah!

Newhouse was very meticulous about everything they did, and when they marked their crates, and or Barrels, which the stencils came from 3rd party manufactures, the lettering was very meticulous and uniform. As I wrote two articles in the TRAPS MAGAZINE about the barrel shipping stencils that they used on their Bear, wolf, and accessory items I will try to give a reasonable analysis of the one that is on e-bay. On Their larger size traps, wolf traps, and accessory items. The stencils I have here are of three different sizes, which show that they used 3 different size barrels to coincide with the trap, or accessory item that was being shipped.

The Larger barrels were the size of what you know now as a 5o or 55 gallon wine or whiskey barrel which held the bear traps from #6 down to #50. The stencils I have for their #4 & 1/2 wolf trap will fit the lid of a 30 gal size wooden barrel. The smallest stencils I have are for their #5 clamp, #6 clamp, and wolf trap wrench which would coincide with the smaller what we always called a 22 pound nail keg which is about the size of the one now on e-bay.

Besides barrels, Oneida also used shipping crates, but once again as with the barrels, the stenciling was very uniform on them.

The smaller barrels which would fall in to this very small 17 inch barrel that is now on e-bay, were the 22 pound nail keg style barrels which were used for accessory items like the #5 and #6 clamps as well as the wolf trap wrenches, chains, etc. If you look closely at the one on e-bay, the bands look new on the barrel, and the stenciling looks like a 4 year old tried to draw it on with a Black Magic Marker, with nothing being uniform about that stenciling. Also the number of how many dozen of a certain trap was put on the barrel being shipped, and it is not on this one.

In the Oneida catalog it makes reference to shipping various traps and how many dozen traps a barrel would hold. The #0 size reference says a barrel will hold 30 to 50 dozen #0 size traps. Take a tape measure and look at the dimensions of the barrel that is on e-bay. It is 17 inches tall and 12 inches wide. would 30 to 50 dozen #0s fit in that barrel? Now in another aspect and using a hypothesis that maybe someone just wanted a dozen or two, well the shipping address is no where to be found on the barrel as I have seen pictures of Triumph shipping barrels and the address is stenciled there to see. There are many discrepancies that I can find with this barrel, but the biggest is the sloppy non uniform lettering on it. Stay away from that one, someone is going to get burnt bad on that one.

OH DARN!!!! Sure hope I can cancel my bids.....

Nhousecattrapper - do you have any pictures of what a genuine Newhouse trap barrel or crate would look like for authentic stamping. Would be interested to see one for comparison.

Thanks.

Looks Fake

I thought it looked to good to be that old but you never know what is out there, that's why I was asking. Also the amount of traps Newhouse shipped there should be a stencil of the word Newhouse at one time instead of using letters one at a time. The bottom of the barrel doesn't look strong enough to hold many traps even #0's. Thanks for the replies. Steve

Here is a small sampling of various items to show how precise the stenciling is on the Kenwood Trap crate and the Triumph shipping barrel as well as how precise the lettering is on the Barrel lid and crate stencils from the Kenwood, and OC periods.

We all have to remember that one important phrase: Trap collecting is not a hobby, it's a disease.
I also think some collectors have more "cents" than they do "sense".

The more I look at it the more it looks like it was printed with a Magic Marker.

What's the story with the stencil that's say ship to africa, and how big would one of these barrels be... 30 gal, 55 gal?

The #6 full round Stencil is a 19 inch full round. which would fit the larger 55 Gal Barrel. That particular # 6 was a non production trap that was made in very limited supply and shipped to Africa for Elephants.

This trap was an open bottom trap which I would imagine would be on the same idea as the Abbey's, only this #6 was a bigger trap than the regular #6. It was designed with a circular bottom plate large enough for an elephant to put its foot through. The cross piece, pan and dog were fitted to the side of the circular bottom but not riveted to it. They were loose so they would drop off when the trap was sprung.

The plan for setting the trap was to dig a hole in the ground, bridge it with sticks, set the trap on it and camouflage. The elephants foot would go through to the bottom of the hole and the trap would be well up on the animals leg.

Apparently this trap was made as a sample trap as per request and never put in production or put in their catalog. One interesting mention that is in this article is that the jobber that shipped the Elephant traps to Africa, and the Tiger traps to India or Burma about 1900-1901 was Montgomery Wards. The traps that went to India and Burma were regular #5s and #6s for trapping tigers.

Very cool!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/OLD-original-STO...GUAAOSwZG9WjxKG

How about this? I think I may go into stump carving.

You would be way better off spending your money on that stump than on the barrel.

Well said Dale, and those Victor Stumps usually go pretty darn high.

I guess I'm the ignorant one. I figured the stump was something someone made themselves but I guess it is a legitimate item.

don't feel bad. I didn't know there was such a thing either. I am scared to buy anything without asking someone that knows more than me first.

That is one of the better stumps,usually the hooks are all torn out. I would love to have it.

Well at the closing price of $949.10 including shipping, someone got burned badly on that one.