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Re: Coyote shooters [Re: USMC47 🦫] #5402216
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I'm not expert but I believe bullet type has to do more with pelt damage than caliber to some extent. A .308 with a fmj will do less damage than a 22-250 with a ballistic tip.

Re: Coyote shooters [Re: goldy] #5402219
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Originally Posted By: goldy
Don't know why you don't like the .204. Maybe bullet choice? 35 grain Bergers are the best fur bullet by far.
Goldy, I like the .204, I just think I'm tricking myself into thinking it's too light. I'll be moving to Montana in a few years. The wide open terrain where I'll be will be perfect for a 400 to 600 yard shot. I've got the capability and just want to make sure I have a gun that matches me.

Again, maybe I haven't given the 204 the proper test but I feel maybe it's too light?


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Re: Coyote shooters [Re: griz16p] #5402223
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Originally Posted By: griz16p
I'm not expert but I believe bullet type has to do more with pelt damage than caliber to some extent. A .308 with a fmj will do less damage than a 22-250 with a ballistic tip.
You may be right. I've only cared about killing things with bullets the last many years but I shot a couple yotes with my .204 and it left a hole that looked like superman punched in them.


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Re: Coyote shooters [Re: laker] #5402224
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Originally Posted By: laker
17-204 with chan nagel 30 grain hollowpoint
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Re: Coyote shooters [Re: USMC47 🦫] #5402229
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22-250
center mass is good to go
little high or little low
you learn to sew

Re: Coyote shooters [Re: USMC47 🦫] #5402232
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35gr Berger in my T.20 works good for me, most of my shots are under 350 yds
if you need further shots, a 52gr hollow point in a 22-250 should work

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Re: Coyote shooters [Re: USMC47 🦫] #5402233
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...gone are the days when the challenge of the Hunt was to bring the animal in.

the .204 is fine


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Re: Coyote shooters [Re: USMC47 🦫] #5402241
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Before I spent the money on a new gun, unless you just want another gun, try the 35 grain Bergers. Night and day the bullet choice makes. I personally don't own one, my hunting partner does. But I do all his skinning and put-up. Before he switched to 35 grain Bergers, I was doing a LOT of sewing. Some were just destroyed beyond usable. Now most of the time the bullet doesn't come out, especially out past 200 yards. Wind drift doesn't seem to be a big issue, because at 4,000 fps, the bullet gets there before the wind has much of a chance to drift it.


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Re: Coyote shooters [Re: USMC47 🦫] #5402248
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my barrel is 25" , shorter the barrel sooner the bullet falls on distance

Re: Coyote shooters [Re: USMC47 🦫] #5402254
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22-250 seems the general concensus. Maybe I'll ask Barbara Boxer and Nancy Pelosi and the queen of them all.....Dianne Feinstein while I'm out here.


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Re: Coyote shooters [Re: 330-Trapper] #5402260
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Originally Posted By: 330-Trapper
...gone are the days when the challenge of the Hunt was to bring the animal in.

the .204 is fine
I agree. But in this case, losing the chance on some of these yotes isn't acceptable. Trapping isn't enough for the livestock killers where I'll be and I need to have the capability to reach.


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Re: Coyote shooters [Re: goldy] #5402269
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Originally Posted By: goldy
Before I spent the money on a new gun, unless you just want another gun, try the 35 grain Bergers. Night and day the bullet choice makes. I personally don't own one, my hunting partner does. But I do all his skinning and put-up. Before he switched to 35 grain Bergers, I was doing a LOT of sewing. Some were just destroyed beyond usable. Now most of the time the bullet doesn't come out, especially out past 200 yards. Wind drift doesn't seem to be a big issue, because at 4,000 fps, the bullet gets there before the wind has much of a chance to drift it.
Sounds like wise words, Goldy. I'm gonna give this a try and see what I come up with.


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Re: Coyote shooters [Re: USMC47 🦫] #5402270
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May get a 22-250 also. Lol. Maybe I'll call it my retirement gift to myself. I'll start saving now.


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Re: Coyote shooters [Re: USMC47 🦫] #5402343
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Originally Posted By: USMC47
Originally Posted By: 330-Trapper
...gone are the days when the challenge of the Hunt was to bring the animal in.

the .204 is fine
I agree. But in this case, losing the chance on some of these yotes isn't acceptable. Trapping isn't enough for the livestock killers where I'll be and I need to have the capability to reach.


If you are wanting to wipe out livestock killers at any distance then I would look at one of the many 6mm calibers and run 105 grain amax or 105 grain Berger hybrids

Re: Coyote shooters [Re: USMC47 🦫] #5402347
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Originally Posted By: USMC47
May get a 22-250 also. Lol. Maybe I'll call it my retirement gift to myself. I'll start saving now.
You can never have too many guns. grin


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Re: Coyote shooters [Re: USMC47 🦫] #5402351
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You might experience a little wind east of the mountains in Mt. You will want to shoot heavier bullets. At 600 yds in a stiff breeze a coyote gets pretty small. I would get the 22-250 or a .243.

Re: Coyote shooters [Re: goldy] #5402355
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Originally Posted By: goldy
Don't know why you don't like the .204. Maybe bullet choice? 35 grain Bergers are the best fur bullet by far.


Absolutely! 204's are absolutely awesome. I have a lot of varmint guns .17 Remington,204,22-250,220 swift etc.. They are all good choices,but more importantly is going to be your bullet choices. Do you reload? If not then it is hard to beat 22-250 for factory load choices-40 grainers are cooking and shoot very flat with less damage when you get them out there past 250 yards,past that is where the 52-55 grain pills will outshine the lighter bullets.

It is a really tough question to answer-way too many variables. But I would tell you that if I had stuck to one gun one caliber I would have been a much better shooter at both short and long range. My confidence would have been way higher as well.Get to know your 204 as good as you can-you will be a much better long range shooter for doing it INSTEAD OF BUYING YET ANOTHER CALIBER AND GUN TO LEARN/USE.JMHO

Re: Coyote shooters [Re: USMC47 🦫] #5402361
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you could try a scope that is set up for .204, range it then move scope turrants for distance and wind

Re: Coyote shooters [Re: USMC47 🦫] #5402364
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one thing I like about my T.20, it can shoot 3 shot one hole groups @100 yds, my .223 never did better than a half inch @100yds

Re: Coyote shooters [Re: USMC47 🦫] #5402366
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.243 with 60 gr sierra hp.

USMC, my son is a marine and when he was out there for SOI, he was a little sad the sargeant wouldnt let him pop the coyote out beyond the rifle range.


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