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Substituting Ambrette for rat glands? #565167
02/07/08 12:27 AM
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I know a couple guys that do this and hey say they have seen no difference in reaction. Tell me have you tried this and what were your observations? I use ambrette but for a different lure purpose. Let me know what you think..Im somewhat skeptical

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Re: Substituting Ambrette for rat glands? [Re: KYBOY] #565219
02/07/08 12:55 AM
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I have noticed that there is a marked difference in reaction from musk amberette and authentic muskrat musk. They both have their place, but in my opinion, they aren't interchangeable.



Re: Substituting Ambrette for rat glands? [Re: Paul Dobbins] #565227
02/07/08 12:57 AM
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Kinda figured that. Thanks. Ive noticed several places list amberette musk as a substitute for rat glands. Ive always been skeptical of this myself, but Ive never tested to see a difference myself. Good rat glands are one of my very favorite ingrediants.

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Re: Substituting Ambrette for rat glands? [Re: KYBOY] #565237
02/07/08 01:03 AM
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Authentic rat glands is one of the finest lure ingredients you can use. Beaver castor ranks right up there too - lol.



Re: Substituting Ambrette for rat glands? [Re: Paul Dobbins] #565247
02/07/08 01:09 AM
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I agree ... it's not much that doesn't show interest in the heavenly aroma of castor & rat glands

To my nose ambrette had a "sharper" order compared to nice mellow sweet smelling rat glands

Re: Substituting Ambrette for rat glands? [Re: ] #565254
02/07/08 01:17 AM
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possum skinner, you ever notice that when grinding rat glands that they smell like cardboard after a gallon or two, but if you come back a day later to smell them they have that mellow wonderful rat gland smell????



Re: Substituting Ambrette for rat glands? [Re: Paul Dobbins] #565261
02/07/08 01:20 AM
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I just noticed that today. I harvested some a few days ago. Boy they smell fine....I make a lure for myself that is based with rat glands and castor. Ive caught just about everything on it.


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Re: Substituting Ambrette for rat glands? [Re: KYBOY] #565269
02/07/08 01:23 AM
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KY, the spring rats should be putting on their finest glands starting now. Its a great time to harvest them, but most states don't have a trapping season when the glands are at their best.



Re: Substituting Ambrette for rat glands? [Re: Paul Dobbins] #565275
02/07/08 01:25 AM
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I know. Our season ends the 28th of this month. Ive got a few small ones in the last couple weeks but the ones I got the other day where big and full. Id sure like to have a quart or two of them,LOL...I cant find anywhere to buy glands in bulk to get a decent price.


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Re: Substituting Ambrette for rat glands? [Re: Paul Dobbins] #565278
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Are they just starting to fill out is ky, Paul when are they the most prime. One of the early dec rats pod had just a little bite like the size of two matchheads.


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Re: Substituting Ambrette for rat glands? [Re: KYBOY] #565279
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Decent price for rat glands? There's no such thing. I've been paying just under a hundred a quart,



Re: Substituting Ambrette for rat glands? [Re: Paul Dobbins] #565282
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Well Paul your beating my price by a bit. I did just find some a lot cheaper than I was paying but im still out around $52 for 16oz but I usually only buy around 4 ounces at a time. I dont go thru them like you do,LOL


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Re: Substituting Ambrette for rat glands? [Re: KYBOY] #565285
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My biggest supplier gets $340 a gallon for them. I bought 2 gallons last spring and will probably get 4 gallons this coming spring. They're a necessity in my formulations and I just gotta have em.



Re: Substituting Ambrette for rat glands? [Re: Paul Dobbins] #565287
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Yea, I understand that. I use them in about everything I make. I just dont make near as much as you do,LOL...I really need some red fox glands but I gag when I think about having to buy them by the ounce.


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Re: Substituting Ambrette for rat glands? [Re: Paul Dobbins] #565289
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lol ... you fellas sound a lil too familiar with sniffin cardboard

i haven't hit the rats yet this year ... only caught a few here and there ... the drought has really put a hurtin on a few of my "go to" locations for easy pickens ... i'm gonna be wishing and wanting for some rat glands myself if'n i don't nail'em in the next couple weeks ... still got about a pint and a half i'm sitting on \:\)

ky- too bad wal mart don't have a lure ingredient section ... "great value" brand rat glands bargain priced

Re: Substituting Ambrette for rat glands? [Re: ] #565291
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pint and a half you suck,LOL ..Weasel glands are something else that hurts bad. I dont use a lot but at $6.50-$7 an ounce I cant stand to...man they work though.


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Re: Substituting Ambrette for rat glands? [Re: KYBOY] #565293
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Im gonna be hurtin for castor this year from the looks of it. I lost about 10 pounds when a freezer went down and the drought really hurt the beaver harvest around here this season.


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Re: Substituting Ambrette for rat glands? [Re: KYBOY] #565298
02/07/08 01:51 AM
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I'm hurtin for castor too.

How much red fox glands are you needing KYBOY?



Re: Substituting Ambrette for rat glands? [Re: Paul Dobbins] #565305
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I can get by with a pint Paul, maybe even a bit less. I know that sounds funny but even that gets expensive when you have to pay $4 an ounce for it.


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Re: Substituting Ambrette for rat glands? [Re: KYBOY] #565309
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I can take care of you at less than that cost.... if you like the way my glands are put up. They work great for my formulations, but I don't know about yours.



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