i over estemated how much glycrine id need to cover my castor i have,the glycerine has now all taken on a brown color to it,will this still work for beaver even tho its deluted,and if not for beaver can i still use it as a mix-up lure for reds/yotes/coon/mink?

Lennit
depending on how much ya have mixed into yer castor usually the castor will still work. were the castor whole or ground ya added it too?? ive had some that were bone dry before and added glycern to get them so i could grind them with my hand grinder.it soaks in and softens them up.it should work fine as a curiosity lure for those mentioned. RayA

it ws just cut outta the sack..i dont know if i did it right i cut the sack open and got a whole bunch of granual-isj brown and yellow stuff that smelled like castor outta it,then put that in the glycerine

lennitrapper - next time, ya just need to leave the castors whole (thin red membrane removed) ... wet or dry and grind adding a minimal amount of glycerine to ease the grinding process and add body to the castor

ok thanks guys,will do
if i happen to find any beaver this year (not moany around where i am) ill try it,but ill end up orderin back breaker most likly
and save that stuff for fox next yea

I can't see why you would dry the castor then grind It. Just open the sacs like you did scrape out the contents and place In a bottle and add glycerine to make a paste. If It comes out of the beaver like that then It's good enough for me. Been using It like that for 20 years or better and It works.

No worries, the longer it sets the better it will be. It will be good for next season. Give it a shake a couple times a week.

I with you Beav.No point in drying if you are going to process/grind into a formula or make it into a paste.

I do dry my castors, but after they are dried, some aren't ground at that time. They are then soaked in a solution for a couple months, then ground. The dried castors are better able to absorb the solution and it gives the castor a unique smell and a powerful boost.

Those that are ground before soaking in the solution have something added once ground and the dried ground castor accepts this additive better than fresh ground green castor.

Bummer...............Two "Experts" doing it Two "differnt" way..............Now how do I know if I am doing it Right?????

(ps.......Nice new website Bob J..............BUT....You are OUT OF UNIFORM ! )

Vinke, it doesn't matter which way ya do it. I think it would be quite a challenging task to screw up good clean castor. Like that fella said in Open Range.... "Good is Good".

The only thing I've found that one needs to pay attention to is prohibiting mold growth on room temperature stored castor. A splash of 100 proof vodka will take care of that.

So lets say I took fresh castors and scraped out all the contents then I left the contents dry out. Would I end up with the same product If I would have left the contents dry out In the sac? I just find it a real bear to grind up the dry stuff when It's dried In the sac.

If you took the contents out and let it dry, I believe you would end up with beaver castor gravel. The stuff dries into some hard stuff. Heck Beav, you're having great luck using it freshly scraped from the sac... keep doing it that way. When its working for ya, there's no sense in changing.

The dried castor in the sac is a bear to grind with a hand grinder. I don't let mine dry all the way. I like mine to be dry on the outside and yet when squeezed, they are still pliable on the inside... kinda like a stiff putty. The shells will be hard, but with my electric grinder, it doesn't matter.

The Most important ingredient................

Do you think a a Beaver lure can be Formulated That makes the Beavers TOO AGGRESSIVE????? ....or is it The individual Beavers personality?????????...........
......The last batch I experimented with they Went NUTS!

I prepare castor for formulation different ways. My reply was for the avg fella to grind and make something up.If just doing what he was doing or private use that is what I would suggest.There are few ways of doing things to get something the way you want it to be. Dried castor will in fact absorb other elements more readily when dehydrated. Not just referring to a soluble element such as glycerine, glycol or ?

Yep I agree Paul. I like castor some what dry to the touch but also firm when you squeeze them but yet still a bit soft.Dry castor nugget acorns can pop and shoot across the floor when you are grinding hard castor if you dont have a shield on your grinder head. Ask a buddy of mine he has been pinged more then a few times standing 15 ft away in front of the action.LOL

I believe it depends on some variables as to their aggressive behaviorial responses to different scent. Time of year, age, population of the area,personal experiences, and just how their day has gone. Also some ingredients most certainly can influence their reactions.

Prior to grinding pod castor I have always found it is best to marinate them a bit to facilitate smooth grinding and feeding through the plate.Dry castor kernels are real tough on grinders and blades over time.Like grinding small stones if too dry.

Whats best to marinate an overly dry castor in? Vodka initially, then glycerine once ground?

I like to dry mine for a few days. Just until the outside of the sac is a bit leathery and dry but the inside is still "mushy"..I then freeze mine. Ill let it thaw about halfway out then grind it. Seems to me like when trying to grind green castor the skin fibers plug up the plates in the grinder too bad.

I dont have as much experience as Paul or Bob but I have had success using propylene glycol as a marinade. You may not have added too much glycerin. Its surprising how castor will absorb glycerine over time.

i've ground my fair share of dry and wet/green castor ... is it just me or doesn't castor have a wide variation of ordors with each varying level of dryness? ... it does to me!

some of the best beaver lure i ever whipped up was from super extremely dried & aged castors ground to a fine powder then semi rehydrated & formulated into a usable consistency ... it was by far much more potent than any green/semi dry castor i have dealt with ... i named that lure "headache" ... it would give ya a castor buzz for sure

so, once again who else if anybody has noticed the varying odors ???