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Re: 2017/2018 Maine hunting/trapping thread [Re: beaver trapper] #6082987
12/12/17 07:58 AM
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Re: 2017/2018 Maine hunting/trapping thread [Re: beaver trapper] #6083068
12/12/17 09:51 AM
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I'm picking up a few more fisher this week with the snow. I'm guessing theyre getting hungry but unfortunately the season closes here where I am the 15th.

Re: 2017/2018 Maine hunting/trapping thread [Re: WBG] #6083069
12/12/17 09:54 AM
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" Don't ever make the mistake of expecting any degree of logic pertaining to the Lynx debacle."

Absolutely correct. It is maddening.
Mac



Re: 2017/2018 Maine hunting/trapping thread [Re: Hornz] #6083083
12/12/17 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted By: Hornz
I'm picking up a few more fisher this week with the snow. I'm guessing theyre getting hungry but unfortunately the season closes here where I am the 15th.


I too live in a zone that the season ends the 15th.
Fisher have always been watched like the proverbial Hawk, and often over regulated. I would consider most if not all of the restrictions put on fisher over the years to be capricious and ludicrous.
Fisher numbers have always fluctuated as a course that nature follows. Having spent thousands of hours in the woods on snow I have seen first hand how populations change.

Fisher are not in danger during these times. Not at all.
If the market is high, it is a bit of a different story. In a high market which I may never live to see again,

It makes absolutely no sense in having a month long season in areas in which other animals can be harvested. I do not have a degree as a biologist but have spent considerable time trapping and studying wildlife in the last fifty years, so therefore have learned a bit.
I have caught fisher in coyote and bobcat sets through the years that had to be released. Not a good deal if you have any inclination of common sense. Common sense truly has become a super power.

It was my understanding that the state was concerned with a box open ended the size of a 120 or 5x5 due to the fact that during testing it appeared that a lynx kitten might fit in one. Well ye old science experts, there is not much of a chance of a Lynx kitten or kitten size roaming around the woods in November or December, Those varmints will be adult size by that time of the year.
But again, I suggest that common sense may be a super power.

I, like many of my friends had hoped to be able to run a true long line for fisher and marten when I retired.
The investment in purchasing a car hauler to transport in efficient boxes into the North woods does not make it feasible.
The feds and the state have ended that dream of many of us.
It is sad that wildlife management does not exist. Instead it is a matter of appeasing the antis and the dam feds. Neither of which have a clue about true wildlife management, and neither care a dam thing about the animals.

As for the anti groups, it is more about furnishing salaries for a bunch of useless and certainly misdirected humans that would chose any other cause if there were bigger salaries in that.

As for the feds expertise; look at any of the government. Case closed.

Mac



Re: 2017/2018 Maine hunting/trapping thread [Re: beaver trapper] #6083086
12/12/17 10:26 AM
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And what kills more lynx then anything else.Yep big male fisher.


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Re: 2017/2018 Maine hunting/trapping thread [Re: beaver trapper] #6083352
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Two boxes paid off today. This is a first.


Re: 2017/2018 Maine hunting/trapping thread [Re: beaver trapper] #6083361
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Re: 2017/2018 Maine hunting/trapping thread [Re: WBG] #6083501
12/12/17 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted By: WBG
Dana would be proud!


No kidding



Re: 2017/2018 Maine hunting/trapping thread [Re: Mac] #6083596
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Originally Posted By: Mac
Mac


Really enjoyed reading that, Mac. Makes sense.

Re: 2017/2018 Maine hunting/trapping thread [Re: beaver trapper] #6084057
12/13/17 07:25 AM
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Would Inland Fisheries and Wildlife be open to testing a third option on the larger exclusion devises? That would be a larger opening in front and the trap set back farther from the enlarged opening.

Re: 2017/2018 Maine hunting/trapping thread [Re: beaver trapper] #6084204
12/13/17 10:09 AM
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What we need is a 160 size box with a 5 or 6 inch hole in the front. Last year I got fisher & marten in side entrances boxes (deep snow conditions). This year nothing would go in my side entrance boxes. I did have a lynx do a walk bye this year. It just went within 2 feet of the box and never broke stride. Last year a lynx went to the front of the box and sat there before moving on. Neither lynx touched the box. This fox (could have been a small coyote) was really interested in the box.


Re: 2017/2018 Maine hunting/trapping thread [Re: ebsurveyor] #6084316
12/13/17 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted By: ebsurveyor
What we need is a 160 size box with a 5 or 6 inch hole in the front.

That would work much better.Could recess it with no baffle so a lynx could not reach it.


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Re: 2017/2018 Maine hunting/trapping thread [Re: beaver trapper] #6085154
12/13/17 11:49 PM
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I too pulled in anticipation of the storm. Gear shifter snapped on the truck just after dark, had to limp 40+ miles back to town, grabbed my farm truck and back out to the woods in the dark and zero degrees. Pulled em all, got done at 3 AM the next day. 3:24 AM met my first vehicle - a logger headed in on his morning commute. Caught up on sleep, worked and moved snow, and finally got back to checking this thread. I did finally catch a fisher in one of the side entrance devices. Also had two obvious refusals in fresh snow within 24 hrs. Will try and post a couple pics and video link soon.

Re: 2017/2018 Maine hunting/trapping thread [Re: beaver trapper] #6085169
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Re: 2017/2018 Maine hunting/trapping thread [Re: beaver trapper] #6085174
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Re: 2017/2018 Maine hunting/trapping thread [Re: Jeremiah Wood] #6085175
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Originally Posted By: jwood
I too pulled in anticipation of the storm. Gear shifter snapped on the truck just after dark, had to limp 40+ miles back to town, grabbed my farm truck and back out to the woods in the dark and zero degrees. Pulled em all, got done at 3 AM the next day. 3:24 AM met my first vehicle - a logger headed in on his morning commute. Caught up on sleep, worked and moved snow, and finally got back to checking this thread. I did finally catch a fisher in one of the side entrance devices. Also had two obvious refusals in fresh snow within 24 hrs. Will try and post a couple pics and video link soon.



I hate it when that happens. My truck went down out by Blue Pond in Oct. A Sat Phone & 3 A's got me home by 8 PM or so on a Saturday night & the guy from Twins Garage in Ft Kent even fixed my truck & I was good to roll the next morning.

Re: 2017/2018 Maine hunting/trapping thread [Re: beaver trapper] #6089033
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Everyone pulled for the season? I did a few weeks back to go back to work. Logging pays better than trapping even on the bad days laugh


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Re: 2017/2018 Maine hunting/trapping thread [Re: beaver trapper] #6089038
12/17/17 10:38 AM
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Looks like at least you can get the frozen fisher out of the wooden boxes.


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Re: 2017/2018 Maine hunting/trapping thread [Re: Bruce T] #6101703
12/27/17 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted By: Bruce T
Looks like at least you can get the frozen fisher out of the wooden boxes.


Male fishers in a little box are a problem. This guy needed to thaw before removal.


Re: 2017/2018 Maine hunting/trapping thread [Re: ebsurveyor] #6101818
12/27/17 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted By: ebsurveyor
Originally Posted By: Bruce T
Looks like at least you can get the frozen fisher out of the wooden boxes.


Male fishers in a little box are a problem. This guy needed to thaw before removal.




Lol crazy


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