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Re: States Rights and Weed [Re: Tweed] #6114835
01/05/18 09:16 PM
01/05/18 09:16 PM

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What was pot before it was illegal? No law on the books suggesting it's legality or illegality. That's the grey area I'm referring to.
In AR a trapper could use a 660 style trap for beaver trapping 10 years ago. Someone inquired about their legality and now they are illegal to use. Loose lips, sink ships!

Re: States Rights and Weed [Re: FlyinFinn] #6114849
01/05/18 09:21 PM
01/05/18 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn
Originally Posted By: AntiGov
Legal .........comes with a multitude of stipulations

Not illegal ........no harm no foul ........move on to something else

That's quite an interesting way of looking at the world. It doesn't make any sense, but it is interesting.
This opinion explains quite a bit about the Republican philosophy on government and life itself.


I wouldn't expect it to make sense in your delusional bubble


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Re: States Rights and Weed [Re: Tweed] #6114852
01/05/18 09:22 PM
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If the feds aren't cracking down on every state that made it legal, I would say their turning the cheek and it's in the gray then .
Legal in the state ,illegal in the fed , right in the middle of both .

Like other products before, people want to make it legal to be a legitimate product as many states are doing .




Simplify your methods to the point of perfection.

Become fast,efficient & effective.

The real "SECRET" to successful trapping.

KEEP IT SIMPLE!

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Re: States Rights and Weed [Re: Tweed] #6114868
01/05/18 09:31 PM
01/05/18 09:31 PM
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The assumption that making something that was once illegal, legal, would come with a multitude of stipulations is unique to those belonging to political parties that can't help themselves but to limit the freedom of others. It is a philosophy that goes much deeper than this weed issue. It should make one wary of any attempt by either party to repeal any unnecessary law or regulation because at face value it cannot be a full repeal, only legal with stipulations.

Re: States Rights and Weed [Re: Tweed] #6114871
01/05/18 09:33 PM
01/05/18 09:33 PM
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I would guess that "legitmate" is up for debate.

I don't have a dog in the pot fight. Not my thing, never was. But I do have a dog in the liberty fight.

No one seems to have a problem criminalizing things they don't agree with that don't effect them ... Until it's something they do agree with.

It's a slippery slope and once it starts slipping it never stops.

Look at all the bureaucratic garbage we deal with now. We all gripe about it, but we're all real quick to hand more power over to the bureaucrats.

Mike


One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.

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Re: States Rights and Weed [Re: Tweed] #6114881
01/05/18 09:38 PM
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Perhaps the conversation should shift as to why we leave it to government to signal to us what a 'legitimate' product is? Shouldn't that be left to the agreement made between the buyer and the seller? Does government need to be involved in every transaction we ever make?

Re: States Rights and Weed [Re: FlyinFinn] #6114886
01/05/18 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn
The assumption that making something that was once illegal, legal, would come with a multitude of stipulations is unique to those belonging to political parties that can't help themselves but to limit the freedom of others. It is a philosophy that goes much deeper than this weed issue. It should make one wary of any attempt by either party to repeal any unnecessary law or regulation because at face value it cannot be a full repeal, only legal with stipulations.



What's worse is your infinite struggle to differentiate reality from fantasy


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Re: States Rights and Weed [Re: Tweed] #6114887
01/05/18 09:42 PM
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Hard to find concrete workers as it is
If they put every concrete worker around here in prison for smoking pot, there would not hardly be anybody left to work concrete at all
No joke

Re: States Rights and Weed [Re: PSB1011] #6114910
01/05/18 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted By: PSB1011
Hard to find concrete workers as it is
If they put every concrete worker around here in prison for smoking pot, there would not hardly be anybody left to work concrete at all
No joke


Guy I went to school with won a bid to pour concrete in the oil fields. The customer demanded pee tests. He lost his whole crew over it.

Mike


One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.

Vladimir Lenin
Re: States Rights and Weed [Re: Tweed] #6114914
01/05/18 09:54 PM
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Many different trades would lose half of the workers if they had to be tested .
Hard to replace them with good workers also .




Simplify your methods to the point of perfection.

Become fast,efficient & effective.

The real "SECRET" to successful trapping.

KEEP IT SIMPLE!

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Re: States Rights and Weed [Re: ShaneT] #6114919
01/05/18 09:57 PM
01/05/18 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted By: ShaneT
Originally Posted By: Mike in A-town


And therein lies the problem in this country...

My neighbor sitting in his garage getting baked and listening to Steppenwolfe has zero effect on me.

My trapping of beaver has zero effect on him.

Yet we both pursue to criminalize the other's activity while ardently defending our own.

This country must've been a beautiful place before everyone decided they knew what was best for everyone else.

Mike


Very well said.
Agree.

Re: States Rights and Weed [Re: muddyriverdogz] #6114932
01/05/18 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted By: muddyriverdogz
I will point out 60% of the American population believe weed should be legal. Congress and Session's know this and what they are doing is clearly against the will of the people. That's where the government is at these day's,they don't serve the people on anything. They serve special interest.
If you still believe polling numbers your the last one

Re: States Rights and Weed [Re: Tweed] #6114941
01/05/18 10:09 PM
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Well the 8 states or so ,the majority made it legal for recreation , so that must be over 50% in them states . grin




Simplify your methods to the point of perfection.

Become fast,efficient & effective.

The real "SECRET" to successful trapping.

KEEP IT SIMPLE!

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Re: States Rights and Weed [Re: Tweed] #6114948
01/05/18 10:17 PM
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We vote on our state question to approve Medical Marijuana on June 26. It's about time and I expect it will pass. I have an old knee injury that needs treatment.

It will be interesting to see what Sessions actually does regarding federal enforcement. Trump has hung Sessions out before and the reversal of the Cole Memo stance smells like a political stunt.

Re: States Rights and Weed [Re: Tweed] #6114953
01/05/18 10:19 PM
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In the summer of 2017 a Jeff Sessions led Drug Enforcement Agency decided that hemp (the same plant grown for fiber by George Washington and Thomas Jefferson) is a schedule 1 drug just like marijuana. Lucky that our founding fathers are long since dead so they won't face federal prosecution!


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Re: States Rights and Weed [Re: Tweed] #6114961
01/05/18 10:23 PM
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We used to drain oil out of pans right on the ground. That's illegal now. Good thing I don't work in construction any more.


lol


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Re: States Rights and Weed [Re: Tweed] #6114973
01/05/18 10:33 PM
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On one of the weed shows on TV, they said legally one of the two strains is not considered punishable in California , don't remember if it was Sativa or Indica .

Easiest thing to do would be take it off schedule 1 .




Simplify your methods to the point of perfection.

Become fast,efficient & effective.

The real "SECRET" to successful trapping.

KEEP IT SIMPLE!

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Re: States Rights and Weed [Re: Tweed] #6114974
01/05/18 10:33 PM
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Used to ???


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Re: States Rights and Weed [Re: Tweed] #6114981
01/05/18 10:38 PM
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I believe the Federal government should have less power than it does. I believe the states that legalized weed even though it was a federal law were wrong. Why aint we building that wall right now ? I think that states should legalize marijuana and tax it and the money should go to schools and Emergency Medical Services both are underfunded or no funds exist for it.


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Re: States Rights and Weed [Re: Tweed] #6114986
01/05/18 10:45 PM
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Everything everybody wants is under funded . grin
Unless your a lobbyists!




Simplify your methods to the point of perfection.

Become fast,efficient & effective.

The real "SECRET" to successful trapping.

KEEP IT SIMPLE!

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