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Re: Chain vs cable stakes [Re: trapperty16] #6124234 01/13/18 11:58 PM 01/13/18 11:58 PM
Joined: Nov 2013 Bland Virginia 2 TRAPS trapper
2 TRAPS trapper Joined: Nov 2013 Bland Virginia	I prefer chain. Bc I have had coyotes chew on the cable that could only be driven in 12 inches and there 18 inch cables I believe. So alot was sticking up but held fine. But the yote chewed cable stake almost into,and even popped a spring off one lever on mb450. Hard fighting yote. I have pic that trap holding the yote with one spring somewhere HMC Mfg. B.E.K TRAP TAG

Re: Chain vs cable stakes [Re: Taximan] #6124604 01/14/18 11:59 AM 01/14/18 11:59 AM
Joined: Sep 2011 sometimes PA ME or FL E ebsurveyor trapper
ebsurveyor trapper E Joined: Sep 2011 sometimes PA ME or FL	Originally Posted By: Taximan Copper is just for use with stainless cable,which is all I use now. Thanks for the info. Maybe I'll change to stainless/copper because I use my cable/chain stakes year after year and they are never pulled. Last edited by ebsurveyor; 01/14/18 12:01 PM.

Re: Chain vs cable stakes [Re: trapperty16] #6124816 01/14/18 03:09 PM 01/14/18 03:09 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Montana Taximan trapper
Taximan trapper Joined: Jan 2007 Montana	I built the first SS ones for some permanent sets but the alkaline soil here,is pretty corrosive on galvanized cable and chain so I converted most of mine over.I also clean and prime the anchor head itself.That helps a lot.After the season I check over the ones I've pulled,file off any dings or burrs,clean and prime again. The 12"/6" lengths have been perfect for me.I can always get the 12" cable in but sometimes need more so 18" can come in handy.This way,they are all made the same and there's no reaching for a length that I'm out of or forgot to pack. Ebsurveyor,are you pre-drilling for your anchors?

Re: Chain vs cable stakes [Re: trapperty16] #6124927 01/14/18 04:10 PM 01/14/18 04:10 PM
Joined: Mar 2010 SD Boone Liane trapper
Boone Liane trapper Joined: Mar 2010 SD	Chains great in ground where retrieval is moderately possible. I love chained super stakes in mild, loamy soil types. Cables better if you plan to leave some behind. Driving cable in at a 45 degree angle helps with that cable sticking up in the bend. Or you can heavily load the end of the anchor putting a pigtail into it so it curls up. Than it will lay flat in the bed more or less.

Re: Chain vs cable stakes [Re: Taximan] #6125317 01/14/18 08:54 PM 01/14/18 08:54 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 PA rednecktrapper trapper
rednecktrapper trapper Joined: Dec 2006 PA	Originally Posted By: Taximan I built the first SS ones for some permanent sets but the alkaline soil here,is pretty corrosive on galvanized cable and chain so I converted most of mine over.I also clean and prime the anchor head itself.That helps a lot.After the season I check over the ones I've pulled,file off any dings or burrs,clean and prime again. The 12"/6" lengths have been perfect for me.I can always get the 12" cable in but sometimes need more so 18" can come in handy.This way,they are all made the same and there's no reaching for a length that I'm out of or forgot to pack. Ebsurveyor,are you pre-drilling for your anchors? He is predrilling for his anchors. If I remember right, it is super rocky where he traps in Maine. FUR SHED FABRICATION https://www.furshedfab.com/ Follow us on Facebook

Re: Chain vs cable stakes [Re: rednecktrapper] #6125327 01/14/18 09:00 PM 01/14/18 09:00 PM
Joined: Sep 2011 sometimes PA ME or FL E ebsurveyor trapper
ebsurveyor trapper E Joined: Sep 2011 sometimes PA ME or FL	Originally Posted By: rednecktrapper Originally Posted By: Taximan I built the first SS ones for some permanent sets but the alkaline soil here,is pretty corrosive on galvanized cable and chain so I converted most of mine over.I also clean and prime the anchor head itself.That helps a lot.After the season I check over the ones I've pulled,file off any dings or burrs,clean and prime again. The 12"/6" lengths have been perfect for me.I can always get the 12" cable in but sometimes need more so 18" can come in handy.This way,they are all made the same and there's no reaching for a length that I'm out of or forgot to pack. Ebsurveyor,are you pre-drilling for your anchors? He is predrilling for his anchors. If I remember right, it is super rocky where he traps in Maine. Red Neck got it right. In the shale/rocky ground I trap it takes longer to set a stake than it does to make the rest of the set. When I have time I preset my chain stakes before the season. Drags are not legal in the Lynx Zone of Maine.

Re: Chain vs cable stakes [Re: trapperty16] #6125946 01/15/18 11:51 AM 01/15/18 11:51 AM
Joined: Jan 2018 Wyoming HTF307 trapper
HTF307 trapper Joined: Jan 2018 Wyoming	For the bobcat and coyote trappers---- What cable diameters do ya'll prefer ? I have almost always used drags and when i did stake in the past i used re-bar stakes(home-made). Am getting back into trapping and am thinking that chain, cable or a combo may be the way to go. Lots of rocks here in Wyoming. I really like the looks of the washer/cable steaks. I have a wire welder and gas/oxy set-up so i can fab and prefer to when i can. Socialism is a philosophy of failure,the creed of ignorance,and the gospel of envy,it's inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery- W. Churchill

Re: Chain vs cable stakes [Re: HTF307] #6126107 01/15/18 02:53 PM 01/15/18 02:53 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Montana Taximan trapper
Taximan trapper Joined: Jan 2007 Montana	Originally Posted By: HTF307 For the bobcat and coyote trappers---- What cable diameters do ya'll prefer ? I have almost always used drags and when i did stake in the past i used re-bar stakes(home-made). Am getting back into trapping and am thinking that chain, cable or a combo may be the way to go. Lots of rocks here in Wyoming. I really like the looks of the washer/cable steaks. I have a wire welder and gas/oxy set-up so i can fab and prefer to when i can. 3/32" will work but I always use 1/8" because it is only a penny more per foot but almost twice as strong.The worst beating an anchor takes is when pulling.Washer anchors(pogos)aren't the best in rocky conditions.

Re: Chain vs cable stakes [Re: trapperty16] #6126165 01/15/18 03:55 PM 01/15/18 03:55 PM
Joined: Jan 2018 Wyoming HTF307 trapper
HTF307 trapper Joined: Jan 2018 Wyoming	Thanks for the info Taximan There are bigger canines in the Bighorn's than just 'Yotes. I have seen two and cut tracks all the time, 1/8' is hat i was thinking but wasn't sure. I prefer drags but not to sure how they would perform. I have been toying with different ideas in my head, i am a tite wad so i prefer to build my own things when i can. Besides, it's rewarding as heck. Socialism is a philosophy of failure,the creed of ignorance,and the gospel of envy,it's inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery- W. Churchill

Re: Chain vs cable stakes [Re: trapperty16] #6126223 01/15/18 04:40 PM 01/15/18 04:40 PM
Joined: Dec 2017 Pa, usa T Trapper new trapper
Trapper new trapper T Joined: Dec 2017 Pa, usa	Do earth anchors need boiled?

Re: Chain vs cable stakes [Re: Trapper new] #6126361 01/15/18 06:54 PM 01/15/18 06:54 PM
Joined: Sep 2013 Georgia P Phillipky1 trapper
Phillipky1 trapper P Joined: Sep 2013 Georgia	Originally Posted By: Trapper new Do earth anchors need boiled? I'm not an expert but I treat my cable stakes (earth anchors) just like I do my traps, I boil them and then dip them in Formula 1 speed dip, for the scent removal and for some corrosion protection. Even though they are "disposable" stakes I have some that have been used 3 years (that's how long I've been trapping, I've had success but am still a "rookie") and they still are in use. If they are new stakes I degrease them first by spraying with Windex, before boiling and dipping. Maybe others here have different views, but that is my 2 cents. Good luck.

Re: Chain vs cable stakes [Re: HTF307] #6126668 01/15/18 10:10 PM 01/15/18 10:10 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Montana Taximan trapper
Taximan trapper Joined: Jan 2007 Montana	Originally Posted By: HTF307 Thanks for the info Taximan There are bigger canines in the Bighorn's than just 'Yotes. I have seen two and cut tracks all the time, 1/8' is hat i was thinking but wasn't sure. I prefer drags but not to sure how they would perform. I have been toying with different ideas in my head, i am a tite wad so i prefer to build my own things when i can. Besides, it's rewarding as heck. I would definitely go with 1/8" then.I have held a couple wolves with them,not much more than 12" deep.That of course,depends on ground conditions.I've also pounded two in,18" deep for one wolf trap,in thawed ground.

Re: Chain vs cable stakes [Re: Trapper new] #6126671 01/15/18 10:12 PM 01/15/18 10:12 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Montana Taximan trapper
Taximan trapper Joined: Jan 2007 Montana	Originally Posted By: Trapper new Do earth anchors need boiled? No.Some dip them in wax,for corrosion protection.That didn't help much here,so I now use stainless now.

Re: Chain vs cable stakes [Re: trapperty16] #6126684 01/15/18 10:23 PM 01/15/18 10:23 PM
Joined: Jan 2018 Wyoming HTF307 trapper
HTF307 trapper Joined: Jan 2018 Wyoming	How well does a stainless chain take dye ? Socialism is a philosophy of failure,the creed of ignorance,and the gospel of envy,it's inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery- W. Churchill

Re: Chain vs cable stakes [Re: HTF307] #6126920 01/16/18 01:28 AM 01/16/18 01:28 AM
Joined: Jan 2007 Montana Taximan trapper
Taximan trapper Joined: Jan 2007 Montana	Originally Posted By: HTF307 How well does a stainless chain take dye ? It won't.If you want to dull it,put it in undiluted muriatic acid for about 24 hours or until dull,then neutralize.It will take on a nice,dull gray and won't hurt the chain.Forget dye,with stainless.

Re: Chain vs cable stakes [Re: trapperty16] #6127028 01/16/18 08:26 AM 01/16/18 08:26 AM
Joined: Jul 2016 Michigan D Ditchdiver trapper
Ditchdiver trapper D Joined: Jul 2016 Michigan	No need to treat cable stakes, they are under the ground. Plus, boiling and such CAN break down and weaken the cable. When life gets me down..... you know hunting/trapping season is closed.

Re: Chain vs cable stakes [Re: HTF307] #6127787 01/16/18 08:22 PM 01/16/18 08:22 PM
Joined: Sep 2011 sometimes PA ME or FL E ebsurveyor trapper
ebsurveyor trapper E Joined: Sep 2011 sometimes PA ME or FL	Originally Posted By: HTF307 For the bobcat and coyote trappers---- What cable diameters do ya'll prefer ? I have almost always used drags and when i did stake in the past i used re-bar stakes(home-made). Am getting back into trapping and am thinking that chain, cable or a combo may be the way to go. Lots of rocks here in Wyoming. I really like the looks of the washer/cable steaks. I have a wire welder and gas/oxy set-up so i can fab and prefer to when i can. I use 1/8"

Re: Chain vs cable stakes [Re: trapperty16] #6128142 01/17/18 12:17 AM 01/17/18 12:17 AM
Joined: Jan 2018 Wyoming HTF307 trapper
HTF307 trapper Joined: Jan 2018 Wyoming	Taximan- thanks for the tip. Ditchdiver- i was referring to the top half of the stake that Taximan shared. It is very rocky here and i can see some chain being left above grade. Taximan is right about the alkali in this east slope country, it is pretty prominent. Socialism is a philosophy of failure,the creed of ignorance,and the gospel of envy,it's inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery- W. Churchill

Re: Chain vs cable stakes [Re: trapperty16] #6128498 01/17/18 11:54 AM 01/17/18 11:54 AM
Joined: Jan 2007 Montana Taximan trapper
Taximan trapper Joined: Jan 2007 Montana	These stainless swivels come mirror polished-like chrome.This is what they look like after being in muriatic acid,overnight.They blend in well.

Re: Chain vs cable stakes [Re: trapperty16] #6128561 01/17/18 12:51 PM 01/17/18 12:51 PM
Joined: Jan 2018 Wyoming HTF307 trapper
HTF307 trapper Joined: Jan 2018 Wyoming	Any need to loc-tite the pins ? We use those for some of our logging set-ups, but much larger i bet. Socialism is a philosophy of failure,the creed of ignorance,and the gospel of envy,it's inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery- W. Churchill

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