Re: Medical Marijuana and Guns
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I visited with a fella from CO that stated that since CO legalized weed, every dirtbag in the country has moved to CO. Not every weed smoker is a dirtbag, but most dirtbags smoke weed. Alcohol is by far the worst drug we have, but it is here to stay no matter how much damage it does. The founder of MADD ended up working for a alcohol company, promoting "sensible consumption" as a means of hushing her.
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Re: Medical Marijuana and Guns
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Wow! Guess I am ignorant to violence associated with weed. I have never seen it and let's just say I ran in some pretty shady circles in my late teens and early 20's. It was always pretty widely known that if you want the good weed you don't generally look in the bad part of town.
How much violence is there associated with the black market on alcohol?
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Re: Medical Marijuana and Guns
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What nobody here has brought up, is why CBD oil made from Cannabis . not Hemp, but Cannabis; is illegal under Federal Law ? It's the THC that causes the high, not the CBD. They are using CBD oil for Gran Mal Seizures , and in many cases it works better than regular Anti Epileptic Drugs. Now, I recently read that CBD oil is being used to treat Osteoporosis. The traditional drugs for Osteoporosis, are a class of drugs called "Bisphosphates" That class of LEGAL Medicine, can cause Osteonecrosis of the jaw. This is a picture of what ONJ looks like in a Patient that has been using Bisphosphates to combat Osteoporosis .  CBD Oil would NEVER cause that !! Furthermore, CBD oil contains virtually no THC. So, you can't get stoned using CBD Oil.
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Re: Medical Marijuana and Guns
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Add alcohol and you have instant Gun Controll
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Re: Medical Marijuana and Guns
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It makes me smile how so many people think there isnt violence with marijuana. Also hearing how it’s not a “gateway drug” and potheads just sit around eating cheetos all day. A drug counselor I know says, "Not all pot smokers use heroin, but all heroin users were once pot smokers."
My doctor suggested I start doing squats, so I moved all the beer to the bottom shelf of my fridge.
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Re: Medical Marijuana and Guns
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And all fat people were skinny at one time.
Whether it is gun violence, obesity, or drug abuse it is the person who is responsible for the destructive behavior. Because we are virtually powerless against indiduals bad choices some want to limit others freedom to live their life as they choose.
I don't know what planet some of you are from but marijuana has been readily available during my lifetime and I'm 65.
Voting for and denying others freedom is going to bite everyone in the rear as government becomes all powerful. The monster has been created.
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Re: Medical Marijuana and Guns
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It makes me smile how so many people think there isnt violence with marijuana. Also hearing how it’s not a “gateway drug” and potheads just sit around eating cheetos all day. A drug counselor I know says, "Not all pot smokers use heroin, but all heroin users were once pot smokers." I wonder if he also says that all the heroin users were also alcohol drinkers?
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Re: Medical Marijuana and Guns
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I didn't read all of the responses, but if the law is for MEDICAL marijuana, then it is no different as far as I'm concerned as any other medicine that is prescribed by a doctor whether it be an antibiotic, a pain killer, a blood pressure medicine, or anything else that requires a prescription, and should not be singled out. You should not have to be forced to make a choice between your health and your constitutional rights.
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Re: Medical Marijuana and Guns
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It makes me smile how so many people think there isnt violence with marijuana. Also hearing how it’s not a “gateway drug” and potheads just sit around eating cheetos all day. A drug counselor I know says, "Not all pot smokers use heroin, but all heroin users were once pot smokers." Ill bet they where all consumers of alcohol to. Probably ate a lot of bacon to boot.
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Re: Medical Marijuana and Guns
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Your still at this! Some of you POT stirrers need to stop stirring the POT. And go sit on the pot and force that bug out of you narrow minded antiquated point of view. Arguing only proves my point. Its going to be legal so get off your high horse and just get over it and SHUT UP ALREADY Your the POT calling the kettle black. Narrow minded, LOL.
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Re: Medical Marijuana and Guns
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Just another chip away at the 2nd amendment. Make something legal, then make something illegal. Outdoorsman of all people should know that there will be strings attached. Before long you get a parking ticket, well, maybe your just not responsible enough to own a gun? Well, in this instance not quite true. Pot is Federally illegal, that's the federal law. Nothing has changed on that end. That's true. For instance, if I go to CO elk hunting and decide to buy some pot there because it's legal, I still can't bring it into MN where I live since it's not legal in MN.
My doctor suggested I start doing squats, so I moved all the beer to the bottom shelf of my fridge.
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Re: Medical Marijuana and Guns
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There's no doubt that some heroin users are abusers of alcohol as well as pot. But, some aren't. The point is, we already have alcohol. Do we need another drug to help the make the step to bigger drugs? Now we're hearing about the opioid epidemic, another gateway drug?
My doctor suggested I start doing squats, so I moved all the beer to the bottom shelf of my fridge.
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Re: Medical Marijuana and Guns
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I think it's a good bet there are a LOT of heroin users that never smoked pot. They went to a doctor with a bad back or some other pain and ended up addicted to pills, and then heroin because it was cheaper and easier to get than the pills.
Just give me one thing, that I can hold on to. To believe in this livin' is just a hard way to go.
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