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T bar stakes? #6143280 01/31/18 11:44 AM 01/31/18 11:44 AM
Joined: Jan 2017 Posts: 94 Alabama R Ru2hunt OP trapper
Ru2hunt OP trapper R Joined: Jan 2017 Posts: 94 Alabama	Im about to make a few T bar stakes for drowning rods to use for beaver trapping! Could someone tell me what would be a good safe length to make them for securing the drowning rod?

Re: T bar stakes? [Re: Ru2hunt] #6143283 01/31/18 11:47 AM 01/31/18 11:47 AM
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 723 Burton, Michigan M Mousey Trapper trapper
Mousey Trapper trapper M Joined: May 2008 Posts: 723 Burton, Michigan	You putting them into sand, mud, or rocks.

Re: T bar stakes? [Re: Ru2hunt] #6143309 01/31/18 12:11 PM 01/31/18 12:11 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,923 Wisconsin T The Beav trapper
The Beav trapper T Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,923 Wisconsin	24" would be a good length. If you can't get them In all the way so what. The top stake has NO strain against It. And If you place a stop on your drowning rod about 18" from the stake you won't be putting a lot of strain on that stake either. The forum Know It All according to Muskrat

Re: T bar stakes? [Re: Ru2hunt] #6143350 01/31/18 01:07 PM 01/31/18 01:07 PM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 5,978 South metro, MN C Calvin trapper
Calvin trapper C Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 5,978 South metro, MN	Beaver trapping soil can change a LOT from location to location. I have T bars from 24" to 5 ft....and use them all for beaver. No way I'd make them one length.

Re: T bar stakes? [Re: Ru2hunt] #6143450 01/31/18 03:05 PM 01/31/18 03:05 PM
Joined: Jan 2017 Posts: 94 Alabama R Ru2hunt OP trapper
Ru2hunt OP trapper R Joined: Jan 2017 Posts: 94 Alabama	Thanks guy....Its mostly mud or clay! I will cut a few 30 and go from there! I got a few full length sticks that I will save and cut after I get a feel for whats needed.

Re: T bar stakes? [Re: Calvin] #6146481 02/03/18 01:21 PM 02/03/18 01:21 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,309 minnesota G goldy trapper
goldy trapper G Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,309 minnesota	Originally Posted By: Calvin Beaver trapping soil can change a LOT from location to location. I have T bars from 24" to 5 ft....and use them all for beaver. No way I'd make them one length. Same here. Unless you have very consistent soils (and I doubt you do) one size doesn't work everywhere. With T stakes though, you need to be careful to make sure the drowner is slid down the rod far enough so a beaver can't wrap the chain around the T stake if it decides to go towards shore instead of down the drowner. I'm speaking from experience. I make all my stakes with washers now because the round edges won't allow the chain to catch, the chain just rolls off. "They that can give up essential liberty to gain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety" Ben Franklin talking about guns

Re: T bar stakes? [Re: Ru2hunt] #6146489 02/03/18 01:26 PM 02/03/18 01:26 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,923 Wisconsin T The Beav trapper
The Beav trapper T Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,923 Wisconsin	That's why I always had a stop on the drowning rod or cable about 15" from the stake. With this set up the beaver can't get wrapped up In the stake. The forum Know It All according to Muskrat

Re: T bar stakes? [Re: The Beav] #6146498 02/03/18 01:32 PM 02/03/18 01:32 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,309 minnesota G goldy trapper
goldy trapper G Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,309 minnesota	Originally Posted By: The Beav That's why I always had a stop on the drowning rod or cable about 15" from the stake. With this set up the beaver can't get wrapped up In the stake. But then you'd have to be staking the top stake up on the bank at least 12", instead of under water, correct Beav? If not, you're using really long chain. If I'm ADC trapping, I don't want any steel sticking out of the water. Just puts wise beaver on alert. "They that can give up essential liberty to gain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety" Ben Franklin talking about guns

Re: T bar stakes? [Re: Ru2hunt] #6146509 02/03/18 01:40 PM 02/03/18 01:40 PM
Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 8,414 Firth, Nebraska jabNE trapper
jabNE trapper Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 8,414 Firth, Nebraska	I have a bunch was using them to stabilize cage traps, worked great for that. Also used them on coon cuffs set into opening of a large tomato juice can sat upright and tbar stake driven down alongside the can/trap with t part of stake holding the whole thing solid and stable. Bait goes in the can. I love the stakes in water too, easy to step on them to push them into the soft creek bottom. Easy to grab and pull them straight up to retrieve them too. Jim Last edited by jabNE; 02/03/18 01:42 PM. Money cannot buy you happiness, but it can buy you a trapping license and that's pretty close.

Re: T bar stakes? [Re: Ru2hunt] #6146596 02/03/18 02:53 PM 02/03/18 02:53 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,923 Wisconsin T The Beav trapper
The Beav trapper T Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,923 Wisconsin	I'm confused. What does the top stake have to do with the bottom stake? I only place a stop on the deep end of the system. And nothing Is showing well maybe the stake Isn't all the way In the bottom but It's still under water. The forum Know It All according to Muskrat

Re: T bar stakes? [Re: The Beav] #6146614 02/03/18 03:12 PM 02/03/18 03:12 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,309 minnesota G goldy trapper
goldy trapper G Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,309 minnesota	Originally Posted By: The Beav I'm confused. What does the top stake have to do with the bottom stake? I only place a stop on the deep end of the system. And nothing Is showing well maybe the stake Isn't all the way In the bottom but It's still under water. I was talking about the top stake in the above post. I've had beaver wrap the chain around the top stake when I used a "t" stake. "They that can give up essential liberty to gain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety" Ben Franklin talking about guns

Re: T bar stakes? [Re: Ru2hunt] #6146617 02/03/18 03:15 PM 02/03/18 03:15 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,923 Wisconsin T The Beav trapper
The Beav trapper T Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,923 Wisconsin	That's true some beaver won't go down the slider. The forum Know It All according to Muskrat

Re: T bar stakes? [Re: Ru2hunt] #6146769 02/03/18 06:34 PM 02/03/18 06:34 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 17,774 Rodney,Ohio SNIPERBBB trapper
SNIPERBBB trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 17,774 Rodney,Ohio	If you're having beaver wrapped up on the top stake, I think I would start pushing the drowner lock down the rod so it can't reach the stake. Usually my rods are above the trap anyways and it doesn't seem to bother the beaver. http://www.sniperstrappingplace.com/tmansearch.php

Re: T bar stakes? [Re: goldy] #6147201 02/04/18 12:20 AM 02/04/18 12:20 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,958 Va P pass-thru trapper
pass-thru trapper P Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,958 Va	Originally Posted By: goldy Originally Posted By: Calvin Beaver trapping soil can change a LOT from location to location. I have T bars from 24" to 5 ft....and use them all for beaver. No way I'd make them one length. Same here. Unless you have very consistent soils (and I doubt you do) one size doesn't work everywhere. With T stakes though, you need to be careful to make sure the drowner is slid down the rod far enough so a beaver can't wrap the chain around the T stake if it decides to go towards shore instead of down the drowner. I'm speaking from experience. I make all my stakes with washers now because the round edges won't allow the chain to catch, the chain just rolls off. I had a similar problem except he wedged the 750 itself on the t-bar...damaged the trap and educated the beaver. I never used T-bars after that, just regular rebar trapping stakes. I eventually caught that educated beaver but it took some doing.

Re: T bar stakes? [Re: Ru2hunt] #6147212 02/04/18 12:33 AM 02/04/18 12:33 AM
Joined: Dec 2014 Posts: 1,222 MN Y yukonal trapper
yukonal trapper Y Joined: Dec 2014 Posts: 1,222 MN	Originally Posted By: Ru2hunt Im about to make a few T bar stakes for drowning rods to use for beaver trapping! Could someone tell me what would be a good safe length to make them for securing the drowning rod? 10' length of rebar. 36" stake x 3...= 9' 4" T handles x 3...= 1' 10' piece of rebar utilized evenly into 3 T stakes. 2-10' pieces of rebar equals 6 T stakes...and 3 drowning sets with a T stake at top and bottom of the drowner rig. Last edited by yukonal; 02/04/18 12:35 AM.

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