Have you ever used screen on the dogless traps to keep dirt out?

Anyone feel there is a market for a 1.5 or 1.75 size dogless trap?

I would like to see a 1.5 dogless trap. It would be a sweet coon trap and I bet in the water it would be nice too.

Montgomery made a 1.5 dogless that was a good fox trap in the 70s. Then coyote moved in and that trap could not hold most of them. Never tried the 1.5 in the water. There are plenty of good size 1.5 traps on the market so I doubt a doglegs would sell enough to make it worthwhile.
Screen has been used on doglegs traps for years, works as good as it does on dog on traps and better than other pan covers I have tried. YMMV.

Try and convince me why I should use a dogless trap?

I won't cause I don't like them. I picked up a new Bridger #2 to give it a try and didn't care at all for it. Guess it's what you are used to. Yes I get a few bent dogs now and then but a few seconds and it's good to go.
It's not that I think it's an inferior setup, it's personal preference. I'm not a square trap fan to begin with so maybe that swayed my opinion?

The kill area is larger especially if you use screen. Figure all the time ya spend straightening dogs, all adds up even if it takes minutes. The saved time you could have made more sets. I felt the same as You till I tried em..

It will be like trying to change the wind I am afraid. lol

Duke doesn't make dogless traps so trying to convince you would be a waste of time. Get a couple of montana #3 and play with them and convince yourself.

The #3 Montana is twice the trap the Bridger dogless is. Just sayin.





Less screwing around.

No more pans that have zero pan tension after a catch (yeah yeah you don’t need pan tension to catch a coyote, well, I don’t like catching every rabbit, pack rat, and grouse that comes along either).

No more bent or missing dogs. (Happens a lot). Less fiddling around in the field and less replacing traps.

Slightly more live area inside the jaws.

And, at least with the Montgomery style dogless, low pan that works exceptionally well with screen pan covers. Screen pan covers mean a little more kill area yet again, and more air flow which makes keeping sets working easier.

Oh! LOW PAN! I don’t even remember what a toe catch looks like.

My inclement weather bedding style is 100% dependent on a screen cover.

So is Mark Zaggers.

After using dogless for 3 seasons it's a no brainer for me. I don't care for the Bridgers cause the pan is level. I know I could bed it to be low but why complicate things. If Stalker lived closer I'd have all my 550s converted to dogless. Think about that statement Beav. I really like the performance of the KO Juniors. Thanks to Red and Boone for opening my eyes to the dogless advantages. Which way is the wind blowin Beav LOL.

Seems to me most of the big number guys use dogless Hmmm

All this talk about Dogless. I built this Victor #3 Dogless X-Treme today.

I use either coffee filters or fiberglass pipe insulation under the pan. Beginingg to really like the pipe insulation. Either way, waxed sand is used also.

Good lookin trap...what kinda pan tension

I think there is a market, actually mentioned it to Jeff at MTP, cost of tooling is the issue, and I believe that. I think that Bridger 1.75 would sell well. Look at how the size 2 - 3 have sold. Tim Caven would be the man to bug.

I won't either because you won't listen any ways. But why would you want to screw around working on traps after a catch? Yes I've used both. Sterling's and Montana's/ Montgomery for me. Use what you are comfortable with.

No disrespect Joe, but I get a kick out of this whole trap concept. Any good trapper could catch fur with about any brand of trap.Oh the 'ole double long spring days.

My dbls are also dog less lol
There is reason a old dog got ran over In the street.
It's not because he crossed it either.
It's because his hearing is bad ,he didn't hear it coming.
Moral to the story
As a trapper time is money ,and if it worked all the time for ya why change ?
But if it takes time away from you it costs. Time here for us is just like that old dog .
When younger that dog when young could hear better and move better or out run the truck.made mistakes made up for mistakes with youth.
Less moves less mistakes longer life

So when the dog notch that fits over the jaw to hold It In place wears off what are you to do? And I'm betting that will happen over time.
Do you file a new notch then bend the jaw In to make contact?

All of my traps are hooked up to my staking device with a heavy duty quick link. I just remove the trap If I need to and replace It with a trap that's good to go.

Do all dog less traps have a pan tensioning nut and bolt? If not how do you adjust your tension?

Good questions. I got turned off dogless traps by using the old Montgomery's. There was no way to set the pan tension low enough for Gray fox.