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How many?? #6144657
02/01/18 05:37 PM
02/01/18 05:37 PM
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First of all - I'm new to this beaver trapping thing so forgive my ignorance...

Got a good spot and have caught 4 beavers in this pool. I made a dam beak to check things out and it has been repaired.
From your experience - how many of these critters can be living in one pool / lodge area.


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Re: How many?? [Re: ShawneeMan] #6144677
02/01/18 06:01 PM
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At least here in Minnesota, typically you either have 2, 6, or 10, depending on how long they've been there. But there can be variables.


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Re: How many?? [Re: ShawneeMan] #6144761
02/01/18 07:18 PM
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How big and what sex are the ones you already caught?
Is there a feed pile? If so how big is it?
This will give you an idea of how many more are in there.


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Re: How many?? [Re: Forest] #6144857
02/01/18 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted By: Forest
How big and what sex are the ones you already caught?
Is there a feed pile? If so how big is it?
This will give you an idea of how many more are in there.

These questions right here...

So, I have seen 1 to over 50 being caught out of one location. If a true single family unit then 2 adults and up to 4, 5, maybe 6 others. But I've caught 3 generations in the same pond too. If they have started breeding and travelling, and the overall population is high, you could catch new arrivals through the spring. Hard to answer without more info.


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Re: How many?? [Re: Forest] #6144919
02/01/18 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted By: Forest
How big and what sex are the ones you already caught?
Is there a fed pile? If so how big is it?
This will give you an idea of how many more are in there.


Thanks guys...

Caught these:
1 - Male (50lbs)
1 - Male around 25lbs
2 - Females , both around 25lbs

Feed pile is about 30 x 20 feet, but even when things sere frozen up last week, this pool was still open.
It's a spring feed creek so has to be very cold for quite some time before it completely ices over.


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Re: How many?? [Re: ShawneeMan] #6144933
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I'd say you still need one female 50 lbs minimum, probably bigger. Maybe another 20-25 lbs. Maybe not...One adult female though.


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Originally Posted By: fingertrapper
I'd say you still need one female 50 lbs minimum, probably bigger. Maybe another 20-25 lbs. Maybe not...One adult female though.


Thanks my man!!


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Re: How many?? [Re: fingertrapper] #6144938
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Originally Posted By: fingertrapper
Originally Posted By: Forest
How big and what sex are the ones you already caught?
Is there a feed pile? If so how big is it?
This will give you an idea of how many more are in there.

These questions right here...

So, I have seen 1 to over 50 being caught out of one location. If a true single family unit then 2 adults and up to 4, 5, maybe 6 others. But I've caught 3 generations in the same pond too. If they have started breeding and travelling, and the overall population is high, you could catch new arrivals through the spring. Hard to answer without more info.
That's why I said Minnesota in my above response. Southern beaver are much different than our northern when it comes to beaver colonies. Seems southern beaver colonies can have more than two adults, here it's rare. Not sure where Illinois fits in.

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Re: How many?? [Re: ShawneeMan] #6144944
02/01/18 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted By: ShawneeMan
Originally Posted By: Forest
How big and what sex are the ones you already caught?
Is there a fed pile? If so how big is it?
This will give you an idea of how many more are in there.


Thanks guys...

Caught these:
1 - Male (50lbs)
1 - Male around 25lbs
2 - Females , both around 25lbs

Feed pile is about 30 x 20 feet, but even when things sere frozen up last week, this pool was still open.
It's a spring feed creek so has to be very cold for quite some time before it completely ices over.
Yours might be different, but here in Minnesota, 23-28 pound beaver are usually nearing to be 2 year olds. Anything less than 20 pounds is less than a year old. So you should have the big female and four kits left to catch. But again, I don't know when your beaver are born. Ours are born in June.


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Re: How many?? [Re: fingertrapper] #6145032
02/01/18 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted By: fingertrapper
I'd say you still need one female 50 lbs minimum, probably bigger. Maybe another 20-25 lbs. Maybe not...One adult female though.


Agree, you need to catch Momma.


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Re: How many?? [Re: ShawneeMan] #6145061
02/01/18 11:58 PM
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I catch a beaver, skin it, remove the castors...and generally have no idea what the sex is. How are you all sexing them? I never see anything on the outside and I'm not sure what to look for on the inside.

Re: How many?? [Re: ShawneeMan] #6145075
02/02/18 12:23 AM
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There is a penis bone that is on the head side of the anus center between the two castors. It is usually about a half in inch long and sort of shaped like a golf tee. You can usually feel it from the outside, but easier to find skinning.


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Re: How many?? [Re: ShawneeMan] #6145143
02/02/18 06:48 AM
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I used to live in MI, and trapped beaver the full length of the state. Kits generally were less than 15 pounds and ranged from 1-5 per colony. Adults were 40 pounds plus and usually 2 per colony. If the pond was big with multiple lodges, usually the two year olds were occupying the secondary lodge and not another family.

Down here, it is quite different. They can have kits almost year round so it is harder to distinguish generations.


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Re: How many?? [Re: ShawneeMan] #6145221
02/02/18 08:34 AM
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My typical experience where they have been established without being disturbed for a couple of years.....the mated pair in the 40+ range, 1 to 4 close to 30 lbs and 1 to 4 approaching 20 lbs. The weights of the young will vary depending on the time of the year with summer and early fall being lighter and late winter and early spring heavier.

They usually give birth here in the late April to May timeframe and I am already getting calls for dispersals showing up in new places.


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Re: How many?? [Re: ShawneeMan] #6145885
02/02/18 08:54 PM
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In the problem beaver I have trapped if you are a ways from the house. The big female is the last to be caught. (spring time beaver in MN). One area that I trap behind the house, I usually have to trap it every three years because of the population. Last spring was the 2nd time I trapped here and took 10 beaver from this small area. Still have not caught the adult female. I bet she is huge. I am about 1/4 mile from the house. This area is kind of a savings account for me.

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