Re: Active school shooting!
[Re: Finster]
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It's very, very, sad but not at all surprising. For years now we've told God to stay out of our schools and out of our lives. And being the gentleman that he is he has obliged. How can we be reasonable and expect God's protection? I think it was Madeline O'Hare that said she didn't want any more prayer in schools and we said that works for us. Somebody else said take down the ten commandments (thou shalt not kill, love your neighbor as yourself) and we said that works for us too. A spiritual law is you reap what you sow and we are reaping just what we have sowed. Is it really any surprise?
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Re: Active school shooting!
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i also don't care for the way the media is sticking microphones in the faces of these poor kids that are all frazzled and upset.
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Re: Active school shooting!
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It's very, very, sad but not at all surprising. For years now we've told God to stay out of our schools and out of our lives. And being the gentleman that he is he has obliged. How can we be reasonable and expect God's protection? I think it was Madeline O'Hare that said she didn't want any more prayer in schools and we said that works for us. Somebody else said take down the ten commandments (thou shalt not kill, love your neighbor as yourself) and we said that works for us too. A spiritual law is you reap what you sow and we are reaping just what we have sowed. Is it really any surprise? A lot of truth in that.. Osky
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Re: Active school shooting!
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I changed schools several times growing up,and right from grade two on you were tested right off the bat.I learned right off you had to beat up the bully then you were a-ok. Yup. I attended 11 different schools. Same deal. Osky I had a friend who said his parents moved 12 times while he was in school, said he found them every time.
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Re: Active school shooting!
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It's very, very, sad but not at all surprising. For years now we've told God to stay out of our schools and out of our lives. And being the gentleman that he is he has obliged. How can we be reasonable and expect God's protection? I think it was Madeline O'Hare that said she didn't want any more prayer in schools and we said that works for us. Somebody else said take down the ten commandments (thou shalt not kill, love your neighbor as yourself) and we said that works for us too. A spiritual law is you reap what you sow and we are reaping just what we have sowed. Is it really any surprise? Well put and I couldn’t agree more.
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Re: Active school shooting!
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What about that whole town in Texas that got shot up in church? I don’t believe god is letting murderers into school because they took out the Ten Commandments. His reality was such that his actions were acceptable. That’s different than a couple three decades ago.
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Re: Active school shooting!
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So the question is what has changed to make others lives so disposable to these killers, and where do these shooters get the insane idea that it is their authority to take lives?
Prayers to all, and especially for the parents and family who waited for their phones to ring, but they never did.
Osky
Reading this post really brought it home for me........."their phones to ring, but they never did." Prayers for all the families and everyone involved. May our heavenly father Jesus Christ give the affected families the peace they need. According to the Heritage Foundation, over the last half decade in this country (since 1963), we have experienced the following.... 41% increase in population growth 300% increase in GDP 500% increase in social spending AND YET, according to the Heritage Foundation from 1963-1993, we have 560% increase in violent crime 400% increase in illegitimate births 400% increase in the divorce rate 300% increase in single parent homes 200% increase in teenage suicides, and a 75% decrease in SAT scores. So what happened in 1963......? We took the Bible out of our schools. Since that time, we have seen increased divorce rates, increased breakup of family units, increase acceptance of homosexuality, increase in teenage pregnancies, an increase in the murder of inconvenient babies, and and an increase in crime rates. Pray for our country!
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Re: Active school shooting!
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Hate and envy will never be eliminated and have always been present.
Whàte makes youth literally kill without conscience? I 100% agree Osky! What is the one thing that we don't have to teach our children? The answer is how to be bad, they do it all on their own. We don't have to teach them at all to be sinful or wicked, they do it all by themselves, but we do have to teach them to love one another including themselves. I'm not going to make many friends saying this, but it is what I think. We as a society have forced our children into an education system that "preaches" paganism via science through the false mechanism of evolution. We no longer advocate the Golden Rule; rather, that our children are products of random chance over billions of years. When they die, there is nothing to look forward to or be regretful for. This precious time we have on earth is not seen as sacred, and thus human life itself is not sacred.
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Re: Active school shooting!
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I have to wonder if these shooters are whacked out on drugs, meth ,heroine ect. i know the people i have interacted that were on meth were terribly violent and unpredictable!
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Re: Active school shooting!
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I have to wonder if these shooters are whacked out on drugs, meth ,heroine ect. i know the people i have interacted that were on meth were terribly violent and unpredictable! Probably a kid that got fed mood altering drugs growing up? Or anti depressants? Kid probably fed a pharmacy every time he acted up or didn't get good grades or parents believed he could pay attention or was too hyper. Then you got a media that spews nothing but hate and divisiveness? Any news channel comes on is hate and discontent? Preaching how bad America is? Whole world is hate these days, no wonder we are having such issues. Just believe we are reaping the rewards of a generation or two of medicated kids. J They took cartoons like bugs bunny and Yosemite Sam off the tv cause they were violent? Three stooges? Well we never pulled no mess like this!
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Re: Active school shooting!
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I'm not 60 yet, but when I went to high school, only one of my fiends had divorced parents. And all had fathers who demanded good behavior at school and at least decent grades. It all has to do with discipline and not accepting anything but appropriate behavior. You can't demand "acceptable behavior" anymore. If you do you're a fascist/racist and your school district will have the ACLU and LGBTQ and numerous other alphabet soup organizations up their butt... Mike
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Re: Active school shooting!
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Hate and envy will never be eliminated and have always been present.
Whàte makes youth literally kill without conscience? I 100% agree Osky! What is the one thing that we don't have to teach our children? The answer is how to be bad, they do it all on their own. We don't have to teach them at all to be sinful or wicked, they do it all by themselves, but we do have to teach them to love one another including themselves. I'm not going to make many friends saying this, but it is what I think. We as a society have forced our children into an education system that "preaches" paganism via science through the false mechanism of evolution. We no longer advocate the Golden Rule; rather, that our children are products of random chance over billions of years. When they die, there is nothing to look forward to or be regretful for. This precious time we have on earth is not seen as sacred, and thus human life itself is not sacred. Bingo. x1000 The other thing is most businesses were closed on Sunday for church/rest/family time. Businesses closed at a decent time. Then in the 90's more businesses decided to stay open on Sunday and stay open late every night including 24 hrs.
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Re: Active school shooting!
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Finster, in response to your demand that teachers "should be armed and if they refuse they should be dismissed" that is perhaps the most stupid thing I have ever read. More guns ain't the answer big boy - less easily obtained automatic weapons, fewer 15-shot magazines would be a good start tho.
I know I'll be labeled as some kind of traitor by you guns nuts, but I'd personally love to see some common sense and less NRA-driven paranoia. I personally hunt and carry a firearm more days than most on here, but I hate AR's. Seeing kids bloody in the streets every week is making me re-think my philosophy. Dead teenagers or semi-auto rifles. Hmm, seem like an easy choice. Nobody needs to be able to buy an AR, and nobody needs a 15 or 30 shell magazine. I'd be happy as heck if they were outlawed.
Gimme my shotgun, a .22 and a couple deer rifles. I won't ever own an AR.
Go ahead and have at me. I don't care.
I agree
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Re: Active school shooting!
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Finster, in response to your demand that teachers "should be armed and if they refuse they should be dismissed" that is perhaps the most stupid thing I have ever read. More guns ain't the answer big boy - less easily obtained automatic weapons, fewer 15-shot magazines would be a good start tho.
I know I'll be labeled as some kind of traitor by you guns nuts, but I'd personally love to see some common sense and less NRA-driven paranoia. I personally hunt and carry a firearm more days than most on here, but I hate AR's. Seeing kids bloody in the streets every week is making me re-think my philosophy. Dead teenagers or semi-auto rifles. Hmm, seem like an easy choice. Nobody needs to be able to buy an AR, and nobody needs a 15 or 30 shell magazine. I'd be happy as heck if they were outlawed.
Gimme my shotgun, a .22 and a couple deer rifles. I won't ever own an AR.
Go ahead and have at me. I don't care.
I agree Bullcrap, every word of it. Going after semi long guns, why? Are you prepared to go after semi pistols if that's what is legal after you take long guns from people? (because that's what the nut-cases will use to do shoot ups, and they're easier to hide) ITS NOT THE GUN
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