waggler...

Our place (Belly Acres) is at just over 5,000' and we get a marten through here from time to time. The pass over to the Montana side is only about 3 miles (as the crow flies) east of us, and is a bit over 7,200'. Decent marten habitat along the divide with lodgepole and Doug fir, but a friend of mine traps that, so we stay away. Most of what we catch is at about 5800-6200' elevation. The interesting thing to me is that our catch is basically all dispersers. Out of 83 marten we've taken in the sage, only one adult female, so our overall ratio is still about 25:1. Too, it's tough to elevate our sets to 36" when the tallest sagebrush is only 30" tall.

drasselt...

Most every place I trapped marten, always got a handful of weasels as well. Never noticed an increase in ermine in advance of a marten upswing. I'll go through my old notes and will keep it in mind for future. Interesting; I've never heard that before.

^^^^^^
83 marten in sage brush; WOW, that's a new one for me.
I'll bet your friend does pretty well in the high country.

Send a few of those sage Marten to Ken. He might change his tune, as to gastro-delight!

You two east of big muddy boys need to understand the OP is planning to trap in Alaska. Second: trapping marten is easy, accessing them not so much, managing them is the complicated part. 204 marten in NYS probably means you keep your population below maximum sustained yield due to a trapper pit. You appear to manage people, but you got too many and not my ethics.

Also..."feeding wildlife" is illegal in Alaska so SOME troopers view pre-baiting as illegal also. Check before you try that

The OP wil be in AK soon.
However, In the ADK's and the Tug Hill area we usually get less than 100" of snow fall (sometime ago I saw 156" in one storm)..lake effect east lake Onterio can exceed that. Guess that's "...not much.." but still enough to cover the ground

I've only been trapping for about 39 seasons, still pretty "green," so yes, I'll take all the "good luck" wishes I can get.

Thanks for the kind words,

HUH!

I was trying to be helpful and answer your questions. Please delete my posts and you can go to Alaska.

Do you guys bait your traps? How is that not feeding wildlife? Just curious? I frequently use a whole beaver for bait guess your troopers would frown on my methods. I thought Maine was restrictive in some regards Alaska is worse.

358wsm

How bout posting some of your trapping pictures. I would be interested in New York fur. Especially in foot hold caught!

I can't speak for the experts, but this is my most productive set.

I love it, Dirt. Think I'll use that set-up, but I might sprinkle a little rosemary on the spam. Seems the males really like it..

Jack

Dirt.....You have a good looking yard for this time of the year!

I was trying to be helpful and answer your questions. Please delete my posts and you can go to Alaska. [/quote]

Ebsurveyer,

I owe you a huge, XL, Mtn. size APOLOGY.!!!

I Totally misread your post. I am embarassed, and shamed. I am VERY SORRY.

It was early here, I was not fully awake, not focused, and a bit dyslexic.

Sir, I am Very, very sorry, very embarassed, and I sincerely do apologize.

After rereading, CLEAR HEADED, I saw what you wrote, and was sick to my stomach for my ill response. I do hope you can forgive me, I am truely and exceedingly SORRY FOR MY OFFENSE.

Once season is open it is a different story. Ridiculous in some instances but when you consider the idiots on the highway and in the park settings the regulation makes complete sense. As I'm sure you know, when animals are fed by humans they become habituated. When they don't get that handout they can become intrusive. The next thing you know they are 'removed' from the population. Not the critter's fault. He's just trying to make a living.

TO ALL..

PLEASE FOR GIVE ME.

I am admittedly a bit dyslexic, and this morning I misread a gentleman's post, (Ebsurveyer) and then went on the defense.

I AM TERRIBLY SORRY, SICK OVER IT, AND EXTREMELY EMBARRASED. I WAS WRONG.

On the subject of pre-baiting, I just cut and pasted this from the current Alaska hunting regulations. I don't see anywhere that it includes pre-baiting for marten either before or during the season.

"Intentionally or negligently feeding deer, elk, moose,
bear, wolf, coyote, fox, wolverine, sheep, or deleterious
exotic wildlife (see page 142), or intentionally leaving
human food, animal food, mineral supplements or garbage
in a manner that attracts these animals, EXCEPT: you may
hunt wolves, fox, and wolverine with game parts that are not
required to be salvaged. (See page 17 for list of game parts
that are allowed to be used for bait.) Use of any type of bait
other than those allowed on page 17 will be considered a
violation of the feeding regulation."

White17, I'd be curious to know how the Troopers you are referring are making their interpretation. Doesn't surprise me though. Is there something in the trapping regulations that address the subject?
When I pre-bait for marten it is generally after trapping season opens anyway.

Yes Sir, and I still am here.

The few pictures I had went with all of my wife's and my belongings when we were robbed while attempting to make a move to another state 2 years ago. I wish I could see them also, along with our wedding photos, my tools, her many sentimentals, our firearms, our personal papers, computer, ID's gifts from my late grandfather...and the list goes on...EVERYTHING we owned (except what we had left in storage back home).
This I posted in my last entry in the "I read ths dreamers..." thread.

I could also contact my wife back on the mainland and have her mail you a copy of the police report if you need or would like further varification, I believe a list of our valuables is included in that report.

I could also include a document from my Doctor concerning my Dyslexia if you need or would like confirmation of that.

I am an honest man, who though I occasionally falter, does his best to walk in integrity and respect. Today I blew it and misread a post written by a man only seeking to assist and help me, and I took offense to what I "thought" I read, and wrongly defended myself against a non issue. If you could have seen my aweful response to the innocent posters post you would note that it had nothing to do with the innocent posters post. My response didn't make any sense to the posters attempt to help me. Thus the "HUH.!" in Oh Snap's immediate follow up to my aweful response (For which I am personally humiliated over and shamefully embarrassed by).


P.S. I also want to say, that when writing and texting there is lost the benefit of "voice inflection" and therefore you cannot hear my tone. I am in no way pounding my fist, I submitt this in the most sorrowful of ways with the deepest respect.