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Re: Someone  willing to talk marten and footholds
[Re: 358wsm]
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 02/24/18 01:53 AM
02/24/18 01:53 AM
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 I also accept that todays misread, and my response may well of cost me my going to AK.  There are good men  on here that put their trust in me who I am sure are now looking at matters with raised eyebrows. 
   If I could have seen the post correctly, I would have never responded as I did. But for some reason, it did happen. 
  Perhaps God has another direction for my life that I am unaware of and He allowed me to error as I did. No one here can varify my heart, and though my intensions are good, I have lived long enough that I have come to the realization that I am not the only one calling the shots in my life for the direction I journey, dispite my intensions. Thought I have often desired to kick against that, He is the one who ultimately does the leading, guiding, directing, and often redirecting. I am often only left with the option to to yeild and go where He would have me go. He does however give me one choice, to yeild to His leading or not. I have found in my life that resisting His directives has never been a good path for me to be on. So to the best I can, I yeild. If that sounds "churchy" it is not, I do not attend. I learned this in my treestand and by walking the often hard road of life.
   That is all I can say in regard to the matter.
 
 
  
 
  
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Re: Someone  willing to talk marten and footholds
[Re: 358wsm]
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 02/24/18 12:04 PM
02/24/18 12:04 PM
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 40 years Alaska, now back to O... 
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 I return all carcasses to the trap line, including beaver. Prior to the season, that may take the form of a box lunch. Just a free, covered place to be eaten.  Regulations do require that carcasses be disposed of away from roadways, plain view, etc. 
 
  
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Re: Someone  willing to talk marten and footholds
[Re: waggler]
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 02/24/18 01:44 PM
02/24/18 01:44 PM
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white17
 
 
  
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On the subject of pre-baiting, I just cut and pasted this from the current Alaska hunting regulations. I don't see anywhere that it includes pre-baiting for marten either before or during the season.
   "Intentionally or negligently feeding deer, elk, moose, bear, wolf, coyote, fox, wolverine, sheep, or deleterious exotic wildlife (see page 142), or intentionally leaving human food, animal food, mineral supplements or garbage in a manner that attracts these animals, EXCEPT: you may hunt wolves, fox, and wolverine with game parts that are not required to be salvaged. (See page 17 for list of game parts that are allowed to be used for bait.) Use of any type of bait other than those allowed on page 17 will be considered a violation of the feeding regulation." 
  White17, I'd be curious to know how the Troopers you are referring are making their interpretation. Doesn't surprise me though. Is there something in the trapping regulations that address the subject?   When I pre-bait for marten it is generally after trapping season opens anyway.    I  forget  which trooper  it  was.............but  a few years  back one  of  the  brownshirt  guys  was  addressing  a gathering  of  one of the  trapping organizations  either on the Kenai or  in the Valley.  HE   is  the one  who  told the  group  it was  illegal  to pre-bait.   Maybe  someone  from that side  of the  mountains  remembers  who  and  when it  was. Yes...once  season  opens everything  is  OK.   .......apparently  
 
  
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Re: Someone  willing to talk marten and footholds
[Re: white17]
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 02/26/18 11:37 AM
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  I  forget  which trooper  it  was.............but  a few years  back one  of  the  brownshirt  guys  was  addressing  a gathering  of  one of the  trapping organizations  either on the Kenai or  in the Valley.  HE   is  the one  who  told the  group  it was  illegal  to pre-bait.   Maybe  someone  from that side  of the  mountains  remembers  who  and  when it  was.
 
  Yes...once  season  opens everything  is  OK.   .......apparently 
 White's correct It was Tory Oleck from Palmer.  He came to a trapping school at Beach Lake a long time ago and told us he considered pre baiting to be 'trapping activity'.  This was well over 10 years ago.   Viking makes a good point.   It may come down to intent. Waggler posted hunting regs and they don't translate as trapping regs.  
 
  
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Re: Someone  willing to talk marten and footholds
[Re: 358wsm]
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 02/26/18 05:57 PM
02/26/18 05:57 PM
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Drasselt,  I looked through the trapping regs but couldnt find anything regarding feeding wildlife. I believe however, the prohibition of feeding found in the hunting regs doesnt just apply to hunters though, but applies to everyone including homeowners.   Im not too sure about prebaiting prior to trapping season, but I would  be surprised to hear someone make the argument that it's illegal after the season opens. Is it legal to "place" traps prior to the season, such as leaving traps hanging from pole sets? 
 
  
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Re: Someone  willing to talk marten and footholds
[Re: 358wsm]
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 02/26/18 06:14 PM
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Then whats the difference between feeding wildlife and disposing of carcasses in the bush(back to the foodchain from whence they came). 
 
  
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Re: Someone  willing to talk marten and footholds
[Re: Boco]
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 02/26/18 06:46 PM
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Then whats the difference between feeding wildlife and disposing of carcasses in the bush(back to the foodchain from whence they came).  Intent.  
 
  
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