Re: Popular bases for lures and baits
[Re: braveheart]
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03/04/18 08:58 AM
03/04/18 08:58 AM
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If you lure or bait base is not the minimum of 3yrs. old you are working on a up hill battle. Making lure especially is a planned idea . False Plenty of fresh based material out there when combined, hammer predators and other critters. Just ask any canine trapper who traps big numbers with their own bait and lure who make it per season. There are bases out there that need nothing at all to take animals by large numbers year round. Knowing what the animal you are seeking eats during the year and what will spark curiosity is all you need to know when making a bait or lure for that animal. You don't need to age it for 3 years. Minimum taint to get an odor in the air is all that is needed. All that BS is preference. If that were true why would all these trappers need to buy 30 different lure and baits that were "AGED" for 3 years or w/e the number? Smokey mirrors my friend. Don't think too hard on this matter. Take care of the product you are working with and know what the animal you're after needs to survive.
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Re: Popular bases for lures and baits
[Re: TDHP]
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03/04/18 10:38 AM
03/04/18 10:38 AM
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If you lure or bait base is not the minimum of 3yrs. old you are working on a up hill battle. Making lure especially is a planned idea . False Plenty of fresh based material out there when combined, hammer predators and other critters. Just ask any canine trapper who traps big numbers with their own bait and lure who make it per season. There are bases out there that need nothing at all to take animals by large numbers year round. Knowing what the animal you are seeking eats during the year and what will spark curiosity is all you need to know when making a bait or lure for that animal. You don't need to age it for 3 years. Minimum taint to get an odor in the air is all that is needed. All that BS is preference. If that were true why would all these trappers need to buy 30 different lure and baits that were "AGED" for 3 years or w/e the number? Smokey mirrors my friend. Don't think too hard on this matter. Take care of the product you are working with and know what the animal you're after needs to survive. The man you are dissing IS a big number canine trapper and well respected bait and lure maker. I'll bet the farm that the top catch on your bait doesn't come close to Marty's. How many canines has your top customer caught in a season on your bait? Let's get a number here. I know Marty's this year, and it was in the hundreds this year.
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Re: Popular bases for lures and baits
[Re: iowa coon]
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03/04/18 11:08 AM
03/04/18 11:08 AM
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Have to put this discussion between wood or wire and short or long chain!
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Re: Popular bases for lures and baits
[Re: K52]
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03/04/18 11:36 AM
03/04/18 11:36 AM
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The man you are dissing IS a big number canine trapper and well respected bait and lure maker. I'll bet the farm that the top catch on your bait doesn't come close to Marty's. How many canines has your top customer caught in a season on your bait? Let's get a number here. I know Marty's this year, and it was in the hundreds this year. First Not "dissing" yo! Second, I don't doubt that he isn't a "well respected bait and Lure maker"...but ask me if I care?. Third the amount of time a base needs to 'age" is false considering there are many baits out there that sit half that time and made by ...as you put it "well respected bait and Lure makers aka big ole numbah canine trappahs" and produce great results for trappers, due to that little word "preference"  Last but not least I could careless who's bait sells or doesn't, or catch ratio this that and the other. Because I know if there are no animals in an area the catch ratio would drop for the one with less critters in that area.  I sell enough to keep me producing batches, and If I got any busier it would become a job and that's not why I started in the racket. Not rocket science, plenty of folks out there who can make their own bait and lure but choose not to for their own reasons, convenience, time, mess, clean up, money, investment in tools, grinders, etc. I have a career, I do it because I enjoy it, along with getting my kids and their friends involved into trapping as a whole. Which is another job in its self. ^5 Oh and another thing, I don't kiss arse Tell me what is false in my original comment?  Maybe, just maybe when folks ask for "opinions" they should specify in what they are trying to accomplish and that would change things because of "preference". Or maybe not
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Re: Popular bases for lures and baits
[Re: Bob Jameson]
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03/04/18 12:30 PM
03/04/18 12:30 PM
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plan to prepare ahead for years to come if you expect to remain somewhat consistent ^^what Bob said,,mainly since some oils like Tonquin, etc continue to enhance/change/affect the end result over many months. HOWEVER...Having said that, 2 of my lures are made "ready to use", instantly, and guys are successful as shown on my site.
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Re: Popular bases for lures and baits
[Re: traprjohn]
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03/04/18 12:55 PM
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^^what Bob said,,mainly since some oils like Tonquin, etc continue to enhance/change/affect the end result over many months.
HOWEVER...Having said that, 2 of my lures are made "ready to use", instantly, and guys are successful as shown on my site. Which is all a preference thing right? Considering not all will use the same oils correct?
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Re: Popular bases for lures and baits
[Re: TDHP]
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03/04/18 01:18 PM
03/04/18 01:18 PM
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^^what Bob said,,mainly since some oils like Tonquin, etc continue to enhance/change/affect the end result over many months.
HOWEVER...Having said that, 2 of my lures are made "ready to use", instantly, and guys are successful as shown on my site. Which is all a preference thing right? Considering not all will use the same oils correct? Correct
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Re: Popular bases for lures and baits
[Re: iowa coon]
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03/05/18 08:43 AM
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That is why I never hardly go on this site way to many know everything. I bet you only make a pint of lure a year. Try to make 40 -50 gal. a year and then tell me you little brown board stories. Respected lure maker throwing stones after a simple comment that is fact? nawww C'mon mane. HOWEVER...Having said that, 2 of my lures are made "ready to use", instantly, and guys are successful as shown on my site. ^ He a Lure maker or a wannaB? Or are the folks who aren't old timers who make and sell bait&lure not count? Please point out what I stated in my original comment that is false. FTR, ACTUALLY I tend to make quite a bit with the help from my kids.  Now correct me if I'm wrong thought this site was "SUPAH" big on youth involvement? Youth this, youth that .. take a kid in the woods to trap and hunt or anything outdoors? Pints? No Sir I make a little more than a pint each year, and we fill'em right up. Sir, Too many know everything? Not at all Sir, but I know 90% of bait making is preference depending on materials used, and you don't need to age a base for 3 years for it to be successful. Good day Sir cheer up it's just a comment. AGAIN..lol I do it because I enjoy it. But you're the best, no question. Because someone already typed it.   
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Re: Popular bases for lures and baits
[Re: braveheart]
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03/05/18 10:36 AM
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That is why I never hardly go on this site way to many know everything. I bet you only make a pint of lure a year. Try to make 40 -50 gal. a year and then tell me you little brown board stories. Amen Marty!
Knowledge isn't complete until it's passed on. But, the knowledge that's passed on must be complete. Can't rain all the time!
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