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Re: Log cabin logs [Re: Scanner] #6183363
03/10/18 01:55 PM
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Somebody is meticulous - very nice.

You can tell White didn't come down to build it - the furthest window to the right is 1/4 inch out of square.

Re: Log cabin logs [Re: Team V] #6183391
03/10/18 02:32 PM
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Wood is a quick fix as the military used logs for cord roads, but it will not hold up in time as wood rots, and sawdust and chips rot faster into a slippery mix.
The only fix is the best fix and that is oversize gravel. Other than that, you might get a few years out of a squared off logs for a cord bridge, but after that work, you might as well get the gravel from a stream shore.

Re: Log cabin logs [Re: piperniner] #6183506
03/10/18 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted By: piperniner
Somebody is meticulous - very nice.

You can tell White didn't come down to build it - the furthest window to the right is 1/4 inch out of square.



Just disgusting ! You can't get good help these days !


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Re: Log cabin logs [Re: Scanner] #6183649
03/10/18 08:19 PM
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Piperniner...

Gotta tell a story on White17. Talk about meticulous!

We were readying to put down the rim joists and the TJs on my house. Of course, White17 wants it pretty precisely square. I take the dumb end of the tape and go to the southern corner and White takes his measurement at the north. Then, I walk to the west corner and White does the measurement on the east. He has me walk back and forth several times. Then, we meet in the middle. He's not a happy camper. Mind you, this building is 36x36'. So on the hypotenuse, White17 is fuming over almost a 1/4" difference. No way would he allow us to start the floor with that big of an error. He and Pythagoreus were arguing about 0.25 inches over 50.9117 inches? We spent the next 2 hours tweaking the rims so White17 would be satisfied we were truly starting the house 'square'. You can call it meticulous, I call it simply A.R.

So, no, White17 didn't have anything to do with the little cabin. The 1/4" off on the window was all mine...

Jack


Re: Log cabin logs [Re: Scanner] #6183768
03/10/18 10:08 PM
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Montana ,Rocky Mtns.
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I remember that story, Jack !

To perfection ....



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Re: Log cabin logs [Re: Gulo] #6184263
03/11/18 12:53 PM
03/11/18 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted By: Gulo
Piperniner...

Gotta tell a story on White17. Talk about meticulous!

We were readying to put down the rim joists and the TJs on my house. Of course, White17 wants it pretty precisely square. I take the dumb end of the tape and go to the southern corner and White takes his measurement at the north. Then, I walk to the west corner and White does the measurement on the east. He has me walk back and forth several times. Then, we meet in the middle. He's not a happy camper. Mind you, this building is 36x36'. So on the hypotenuse, White17 is fuming over almost a 1/4" difference. No way would he allow us to start the floor with that big of an error. He and Pythagoreus were arguing about 0.25 inches over 50.9117 inches? We spent the next 2 hours tweaking the rims so White17 would be satisfied we were truly starting the house 'square'. You can call it meticulous, I call it simply A.R.

So, no, White17 didn't have anything to do with the little cabin. The 1/4" off on the window was all mine...

Jack


That should read 50.9117 FEET. I suspect that I now know how the problem started laugh


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Re: Log cabin logs [Re: Scanner] #6184368
03/11/18 02:42 PM
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SEE? Even at 2,000 miles away (2,008.79 miles to be precise), White17 still catches me in random acts of stupidity.


Re: Log cabin logs [Re: Scanner] #6184882
03/11/18 11:40 PM
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1/4” is outside of my tolerance for the first floor. Aim small and miss small!


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Re: Log cabin logs [Re: Scanner] #6185056
03/12/18 08:54 AM
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How well would hemlock work? We have lots in this area that are 24-30” or more and long and straight. And one of the least expensive to buy


There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness
Re: Log cabin logs [Re: Scanner] #6199986
03/26/18 11:18 AM
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Anyone put together a cabin like this with a "skillion" roof? Where the roof only pitches one way and the two walls of the taper of the logs going the same direction?


Re: Log cabin logs [Re: Scanner] #6200003
03/26/18 11:43 AM
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First one I built was like that


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Re: Log cabin logs [Re: white17] #6200004
03/26/18 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted By: white17
First one I built was like that


How'd that work out for you? What size was it? I was thinking roughly 16' logs and a rubber roof rather than moss.

Re: Log cabin logs [Re: Scanner] #6200044
03/26/18 12:43 PM
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As I recall it was 12x16. Rubber roof should help a lot....but I think I would still put moss on top if I didn't have a better option. Moss is great insulation


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Re: Log cabin logs [Re: Scanner] #6200080
03/26/18 01:37 PM
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No worries about snow load?

Re: Log cabin logs [Re: Scanner] #6200177
03/26/18 03:39 PM
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Depends on the span,slope, the size of the log, the density of the snow, any intermediate purlins. Your snow may be a lot heavier PSF than mine. BUT....oftentimes you will get a lot of melting on a roof like that if there is little to no insulation


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Re: Log cabin logs [Re: Scanner] #6200218
03/26/18 04:41 PM
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If your using a pole roof cabin then heat and your presence (shoveling) will negate any snow load issues. If you don't use the cabin, and depending on the roof covering, decay could effect the poles and in time snow load would be a problem.
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Re: Log cabin logs [Re: Scanner] #6200528
03/26/18 11:16 PM
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Since I was a wee kid, I dreamt of building a small cabin in the Alaskan wilderness and hunting and trapping out of it until I was too old to do much. It has been a sweet and comforting dream, and it just died on this thread.

Re: Log cabin logs [Re: Scanner] #6205010
04/01/18 02:50 PM
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PA, never ever let reality kill a dream.

Re: Log cabin logs [Re: ttzt] #6213478
04/10/18 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted By: ttzt
PA, never ever let reality kill a dream.

TTZT you are of course correct, but the reality is that my stone age construction skills are insufficient for the demands up there. and the sad fact is my dad was a builder, and i worked on his construction projects from the time i was little, and looking at these guys' projects, i just know it ain't in the cards. I was half kidding about the dream of an AK cabin, as I think most of us lower 48 guys kind of dream about it up there. i did dream about it a lot as a kid, and now i am just complimenting these men on their abilities.
my dad and i did build a super simple rustic log cabin when i was little, about 100 yards from our home which was itself in the middle of nowhere, and i started living in it half time when i was eleven. now i have a big boy cabin up in northern pa, which is pretty wild country as pa goes, but nothing like AK or even the ADKs. but i can still dream

Re: Log cabin logs [Re: Scanner] #6227134
04/26/18 09:58 AM
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I already posted a photo of my cabin in this thread, but I thought I'd share a few more. Photos of the building process and a few of the finished product.

Started by hauling the logs in March 2015 by snow machine. I used the river as a highway and cut fire killed trees as there is no way I could have moved green logs in a timely manner! Also didn't have the time or access to get in in the summer to peel them.

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The building site and the logs starting to pile up.

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I then cut standing dead along the river for milling.



And hauled in the mill, two trips, one for the carriage and one for the track.

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