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Re: Walkout [Re: ] #6191448
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Join our walkout to protest violence in schools or we'll beat you...

http://ktul.com/news/local/glenpool-hs-s...-leads-to-fight

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Did ya notice the wording of thses atricals Mike?

"The walk-out was held FOR the students", Not by the students.


HAPPY BIRTHDAY SHARON!!!

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Hippie my first thought was...

"Ve have vays of making you valk."

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Re: Walkout [Re: white17] #6191494
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A lot of truth written here but yet nothing will change from it.

A student is expected to achieve a certain grade to graduate school but yet the school can operate receiving failing grades on teaching and how they operate.

It don't take a rocket scientist to see the problem.

Public schools have been failing for years and now they are just politically bases.

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Re: Walkout [Re: ] #6191599
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Public schools are failing for students who don't value an education-much of those who do not value it have been raise to believe it to be valueless.

For students who do value their education and are held accountable by their parents, the education they receive makes their lives much more successful and they can choose many different paths to take to lead a happy life.

One of my oldest son's friends had the same chance at getting an education as my son did. He missed a lot of school, barely scraped by and almost didn't graduate. He tied to make it through a trade school and failed, and hasn't held any job for more than a couple months. He blames it on poor teachers-the same teachers that my son had and he's now near the top of his class in a very demanding major.....Who failed here?-The failing kid or his parents?-most of the other kids are making something of themselves by using what the failures refused to take advantage of.

Just one more case of Americans trying to blame their lack of effort on somebody else.

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Originally Posted By: gryhkl
. . . . Just one more case of Americans trying to blame their lack of effort on somebody else.


"When you point one finger, there are three fingers pointing back to you."

Re: Walkout [Re: hippie] #6191621
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Originally Posted By: hippie
Did ya notice the wording of thses atricals Mike?

"The walk-out was held FOR the students", Not by the students.


HAPPY BIRTHDAY SHARON!!!



Good point, hippie. Quick minds help to connect the dots.

And thank you !

Re: Walkout [Re: gryhkl] #6191627
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Originally Posted By: gryhkl


Just one more case of Americans trying to blame their lack of effort on somebody else.


Might be true for some but there are a lot more that get left behind by teachers not teaching all equal.

Teachers pets and certain families always get better treatment just because they rub the right elbows. Kids should not have to kiss up to get educated.

My son achieved his goals on becoming a doctor by his work ethic and self driven attitude. No teacher gets the credit for his success.

Ever since the slogan no kid left behind came out there has been more kids left behind. I do agree kids today are lazier and think the world owes them a life.

But all of this don't change the fact teachers have overstepped their bounds on bringing politics into the public school. This will divide our schools even more as parents and teachers trust and respect will deteriate even more.

To me they just took the gun and shot themselves in the foot.

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Your son did it all without the help of any teachers?-Do you honestly believe that? Did he have to "kiss up" to get his good grades as you say has to be done?:D

No kid has to "kiss up" to get an education, but they should have to SHOW UP to get one.


I'm surprised that so many who claim that people should work for what they get don't believe that that's true when it come to getting an education too.

Re: Walkout [Re: gryhkl] #6191648
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Originally Posted By: gryhkl
Your son did it all without the help of any teachers?-Do you honestly believe that? Did he have to "kiss up" to get his good grades as you say has to be done?:D

No kid has to "kiss up" to get an education, but they should have to SHOW UP to get one.


I'm surprised that so many who claim that people should work for what they get don't believe that that's true when it come to getting an education too.


You live in a make believe world if you think teachers treat all kids equal. There are always teachers pets and coaches favorites. Yes kissing up is part of the game and is getting worse on agreeing with teachers beliefs. They have this feeling their way is the only way.

When my son was in school the teachers did not even know how to teach the math that was expected of him.

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Originally Posted By: gryhkl
Your son did it all without the help of any teachers?-Do you honestly believe that? Did he have to "kiss up" to get his good grades as you say has to be done?:D

No kid has to "kiss up" to get an education, but they should have to SHOW UP to get one.


I'm surprised that so many who claim that people should work for what they get don't believe that that's true when it come to getting an education too.
Sure people should work to get an education. I just don't find political indoctrination to be the education needed. That's exactly what this walkout is, a showing of political indoctrination....and of course kids just wanting to cut class.

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You realize that there are many parents who are also encouraging their kids to walk? Millions of arents are tired of hearing about the shootings-in schools and elsewhere.

Unless measures are taken to improve things that do not include guns, many of these people will make the guns the main target of their frustration.

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Yes there are parents encouraging their kids. But they are also ignorant on the approach.

Attacking law abiding gun owners won't fix anything. If they want things fixed they should join the nra and all of us to get politicians and law enforcement to do their jobs.

That's what is broken.

Using the schools for political agendas will only divide this country farther.

Use common sense and address the real problems and than United we all can make things better. Dividing us and going after what is not the problem will not fix anything.

But it will affect our freedom. And once a chunk of freedom is taken there will be a crack for politicians to take more. And more might be something they will get upset about.

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So gryhkl you believe there is no political indoctrination going on in the classroom?
60 Minutes is having one of the most anti-gun activist that came out of this, Emma Gonzalez, on their show tonight. It will be intresting in hearing what this high school girl has to say.

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The high school girl and her friends are in a bit over their heads and she is loving the attention.

If we gun owners do not offer real solutions, such as demanding that people who break gun laws are punished-every time-getting rid of some guns will be the only target in their sights.

Simply telling these kids and their parents that their ideas are stupid is not going to work this time.

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Interesting interview. The high school students gave the new FL law a C-. Seems they have a headquarters for their movement now that is funded by anti 2A leftist individuals and organizations, but the students have complete control.

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Originally Posted By: gryhkl
The high school girl and her friends are in a bit over their heads and she is loving the attention.

If we gun owners do not offer real solutions, such as demanding that people who break gun laws are punished-every time-getting rid of some guns will be the only target in their sights.

Simply telling these kids and their parents that their ideas are stupid is not going to work this time.
That makes sense but that's not what they want. They want mine and your firearms.

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Unless we find some sensible ways to have an effect, it will only get worse.
Addressing mental illness will not be done to any helpful degree because of the cost. Arming teachers may help, and I think the NRA should offer specialized training for teacher who are willing to be armed. And, as much as some say they hate the idea, treating semi-autos by the same rules as hand guns may help.

If gun owners don't make a real effort to find solutions, instead of just saying leave guns out of it, anti-gun interests will be the only driver of the agenda.

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