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Re: Scope for predator hunting? [Re: trapre] #6194577
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Originally Posted By: trapre
I also saw that leupold's 2-7x33 had two versions VX I, and VX II. What is the difference?

Also after looking, what's a BDC reticle.


cost . the higher the number the more they seem to cost , it should also be better quality assurnace checks and higher quality materials


BDC = bullet drop compensating , it means there are other markings besides just a crosshair to tell you different messurments down from the center cross hair

bdc
same scope not bdc


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Originally Posted By: trapre
What scope would you recommend? If i were to go with Leupold's 2-7x33 or vortex's 2-7x32 which one would you get. does leupold sell a 2-7x32? I don't really want to spend more than $200 for a scope. I am not really in to precision shooting so I don't need anything fancy.


the leupold is good stuff but your going to spend 200 for the lowest model

the vortex should be right about $149 has a very good warranty they will take are of you if it does break so with your budget get the vortex , a set of rings and be under 200 and go hunting


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Re: Scope for predator hunting? [Re: trapre] #6194594
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I think my redfield has bdc in the turrents, but I don't use it, gun shoots so flat I only need to raise it up after 350 yds

Re: Scope for predator hunting? [Re: trapre] #6194699
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There is one rule to follow with scopes and binocs. Get the best you can afford or you will end up buying cheap stuff over and over and spending more and mor in the long run.

Leopold should be the starting point.

Re: Scope for predator hunting? [Re: trapre] #6194708
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you may be able to get calibrated turrets but a BDC reticle has subtensions laid out in specific increments so you don't have to touch the turrets.

they can be used to measure as well as provide hold overs

some people do both a BDC or mill dot or MOA dot reticle for measurement and then turrets calibrated to range. but change the bullet or ammo purchased and you need a new turret if your going to use turrets I think it makes more sense to just have them numbered and have a quick reference taped to your stock.

but this is way beyond what this young man with a 222rem/20ga is going to need to shoot some yotes.


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Re: Scope for predator hunting? [Re: trapre] #6194741
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Originally Posted By: trapre
I also saw that leupold's 2-7x33 had two versions VX I, and VX II. What is the difference?

Also after looking, what's a BDC reticle.

only difference is the quality of the coating on the lenses, BDC bullet drop compensator, you don't need that on a 222
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Re: Scope for predator hunting? [Re: trapre] #6194776
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I’ve shot a 222 for years, like Ridge Runner said you don’t need a that ! Get the scope and cross hairs you like, sight it in about an 1 1/2” high at a hundred. This will put you about two inches low at 200 yards or so . Make sure when you pull the trigger you’ve got the cross hairs on the target.

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Yup, I put my .223 3.5" high at 100, dead on at 280-290

Re: Scope for predator hunting? [Re: trapre] #6195799
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Keep in mind fella's, this fella has a gun that on a good day will produce 2moa. at least any i've been around. horrible triggers and barrel mounting system isn't ideal for long range. I wouldn't be afraid to put a 90 dollar bushnell on it and keep shots at a reasonable distance.

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Good call hippie, it also won’t pattern big shot worth a hoot either ! The combo gun is a good predator gun , but this particular mod will take some work to make it worth caring. A lot of work as in a lot of shooting to figure out how it handles different loads to make it a coyote killer. If that particular gun has a gloved receiver for a scope mount you will have to have it drilled and tapped or you won’t be able to shoot the 20 ga. it may never shoot big shot without having choke tubes put in !

All depends on how picky you are !

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Thank you all for the great info you have given me! I think I will go with the vortex 2-7x32. I also live near Grice gun shop if any of you have heard of it. They are selling the vortex for $130.00. The leupold is being sold for $150!


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Re: Scope for predator hunting? [Re: trapre] #6196902
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those are both good prices the shop should be able to help you with mounting , then try it at 25 yards on a big sheet of fresh cardboard with a small target in the middle

you may find yourself a foot off at 25 yards measure in inches how far you are off

say you made a 1 inch square and shoot at that and you were 8 inches low and 5 inches right

25 yards is 1/4 of 100 yards , the adjustment on your scope is for 1/4 inch at 1 hundred yards

so 8 inches times 4 you would be 32 inches off at 100 yards so you need to adjust 32 minutes up generally there are numbers 1-12 on the vortex go all the way around 3 times in the up direction

5 inches X 4 is 20 so go around once and then 8 more minutes in the left direction

it use to be we had to count clicks but most new scopes have numeric markings with 1/4 marks between them

when we had to count clicks you would have taken 8 inches low X 4 = 32 x 4 clicks per minute (or inch at 100 yards) you would have counted 128 clicks there are still 128 clicks but now much easier with the numeric minute markings

by the way a MOA or minute of angle is 1/60th of a degree so there are 360 degrees in a circle and 60 minutes in each degree so 21600 minutes in a circle but about 1 inch at 100 yards technically a MOA is 1.047 inches you can see till your way past what your going to shoot 0.047 doesn't add up to much about a half inch at 1000 yards so close enough.

once you know how to use the math you can get very close in 3 rounds once your just about perfect at 25 yards move to 100 for shooting groups and establishing a zero.

you probably want to be about 2 or 2.5 inches high at 100 yards so you shoot at say a 2 inch diamond target you can print those off form several places online but I like these http://www.6mmbr.com/targets.html I like the medium range diamonds they work well at 100 and 200 yards for the 7 power scope

if you can get someplace where you can shoot at 200 also and see where your at 200 sometimes I fine tune when I have a group at 200 you likely won't need to move much but fine tuning so you are the best you can be from 25 yards to 225 yards

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