in PA archery dealers are reporting that over half of their sales are crossbows and supporting equipment now..I don't think I would support a movement against crossbows.even though I don't hunt with one...sort of like you do it the way you want to I'll do it the way I want to...in the end it still a dead deer[as long as it is legal and consumed].yes Corky we should all support each other!!

I'll be voting NO.
The wording in the question (last 2 paragraphs) supports my thoughts that bow hunters and by extension x-bow hunters are primarily Buck only hunters.

I can understand the "frustration" with the bow season. Its very long, gets the best time (early Nov.).

And I agree that Compound bow hunters have nothing to complain about when it comes to x-bows.

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Their philosophy is I'm bow hunting here so don't contaminate MY square mile with human scent

In question 18, I disagree with the statement : crossbow technology ( some crossbows ) already rival shotguns in both range and accuracy. So....are crossbow users shooting at deer out to 100+ yards, as some slug guns are effectively used ?

Anytime in the past when it has been proposed to move the regular gun season earlier into the usual rut, or heaven forbid, hold the muzzleloading season prior to the regular gun season.....the WBA scream bloody murder, etc.

......I'll also vote NO

There is a crossbow that advertises accuracy of 3" groups at 100 yards.
One of the most important parts of archery hunting is drawing the bow when the deer is within range.
Siting in a ground blind with a scoped weapon-some on a bipod-rest the crosshairs, squeeze the trigger, do you fist pump. It's certainly s not archery hunting.

Kill your deer anyway you want, but this ain't archery hunting. Everyone was free to hunt with a bow before crossbows were allowed- the archers did.

It is just one more sign of the dumbing-down of the country and affirmative action for folks who want a shortcut.
Handicapped hunters incapable of drawing a bow using a crossbow is one thing. A healthy hunter who can physically draw a bow should not be allowed to use one-

Come on, man call it what it is!

I'll call it what it is Grackle.

Your post is bullcrap!

Exactly!

The truth can hurt the feeling of some, but it should not. We are all free to use them if they are legal.
There is nobody who can HONESTLY say that crossbows offer anywhere near the same challenge as any vertical bow. The challenge was too much for some hunters to accept and jealousy caused their whining for a way that was easy enough for them to be successful, which, in turn was seen as a way increase revenues for game agencies.

Those are the honest facts of the matter. It perfectly legal to hunt with the weapon now, so one should not feel bad for killing their deer with the weapon. Just don't kid yourself-it's crossbow hunting.

If your anti crossbow for archery season then:

The truth is that compounds do not offer the same challenge as longbows....thus compounds should be excluded from archery season.

Actually, treestands are too much of an advantage and should be outlawed.....not to mention trail cams and baiting/food plots.

IMO. The Wi. archery season starts way too early.

You are the stereotypical arrogant elitist. I'm not going to argue with you because I've heard all of the baseless, condescending talking points made by you and your ilk for years as you kicked and screamed about the inclusion of crossbows into "your" Pa archery season.

Now go don your loincloth, grab your flint knife and kill a deer the only way a "real" alpha hunter would.

A move back to recurves and long bows would have been a better move, but the lost money would be far too great.

Here in PA, the procrossbow guys were offered the weapon with a rule against using scopes, they held out and demand they be allowed to use scopes or keep fighting. The last thing they wanted was a challenge.

The same group is now whining to be allowed to hunt deer over bait here in PA. Making everything easier is certainly a sign of the direction the country has moved-I guess hunting should be no different.....it be what it be.

Loin cloth and spear....that's a funny one

Flint knife, a spear would be cheating.

Compound bows 60% let off lighted pins mechanical releases.
If there Is a deer season I should be able to kill that deer with any legal method. It's my choice and some other group has no right In telling me how I should or should not kill that deer.

All those bells and whistles you elitists use on your modern vertical bows seems like an unfair advantage to me. But I guess as long as you still have to pull it back...

lug, do you believe a crossbow use in anywhere near the challenge or archery hunting? Or is that not part of the reason you hunt? This is not meant as any kind of criticism.

My wife went to using a crossbow last year. She does not have the time to practice with her compound bow and we both think it's unethical to hunt without being proficient with your weapon. The crossbow was easier for her to master. She only gets to archery hunt 3-4 times our entire season. With out the it she would not archery hunt. I was the one who encouraged her to try a crossbow. Not everyone feels they can master the skills of shooting a vertical bow so they sit out archery season. I have remember the same story in the past - compound vs recurve - inline vs side hammer. We divide ourselves and become weak. I remember the post not to long ago about the archery hunter shooting a coyote in a trap because he was a superior outdoorsman. If you truly enjoy the love of hunting please respect others use of legal hunting methods. It's YOUR choice to use the legal weapon to hunt with maybe it's harder to be successful and that's why you do. Don't hate others because they don't follow you. Think back and i am sure at sometime in the past you were told these same reasons against compound bows and inline muzzle loaders.

A 30 yard shot out of a tree stand Is still just a 30 yard shot no mater what you use. So what's the challenge?

You haven't done much archery hunting have you, beav?

Some will never get it, and that's fine. But the excuse that a healthy person doesn't have the time is a lame one. The season was put in place for those who would take the time and accept the challenge.

It sure is not elitist to enjoy a more challenging way that is absolutely available to everyone who will accept it. But shortcuts are all the rage now and easier ways to hunt successfully is just a reflection of today's society.