It took Crossbows three years to exceed the vertical bow harvest in WV.

When does your archery season open in Kansas?

[/quote] Sometime in September.I wait tell its cooler in Oct. Too hot in Sept. for me.Always fun to see what running around ahead of time.I seen 2 bobcat while hunting on one stand this past year .One was trying to sneak up on a squirrel and chased it up a tree. The squirrel won.

Sometime in September.I wait tell its cooler in Oct. Too hot in Sept. for me.Always fun to see what running around ahead of time.I seen 2 bobcat while hunting on one stand this past year .One was trying to sneak up on a squirrel and chased it up a tree. The squirrel won. [/quote]

Ours starts September first. I usually go out if it isn’t too warm. I do agree that it is usually too warm. I usually go after doves or early geese and teal in the beginning of sept.

At least half the deer I've killed have been from the ground(no artificial blind). And very few hunters get 25' from the ground.
Far more than half of the bucks have been taken outside of the rut.
Most of those critical of archers have very little experience of their own.

We aren't critical of archers. It's these freaking archers that are trying to take away our use of the cross bow. They think all these deer belong to them. It's not jolly old England any more and the deer don't belong to the king.

and once again . . .

"Those guys are shooting all my deer . . . . "

I know a few people that would be a lot better off using a crossbow over a vertical.

The opportunity to archery hunt was always there for everyone.
Crossbows were for the handicapped. It should have stayed that way. But too many decided to spend their time whining about archery being to demanding for them to be successful instead of doing what it took to do as archers had for decades.

Pennsylvanian has always had a large group of "hunters" that do little more than ask for more, more, more, from the game commission. We have much longer season than anytime in our history, but many still complain. It's another troubling sign of the times; So many think they should not have to do the work that others have been doing without compliant for many years. Affirmative action for those who wish to be archers.

By far, the majority of bow hunters use treestands. As far as experience I have killed over a dozen mature deer in a season more than once.

As far as critical......your the one being critical of archery season hunters.....I am just pointing out facts. Its not that hard to draw a bow wile up a tree or in a ground blind.....especially if we are talking modern compounds. Someone using a compound bow is really not that special....

That is EXACTLY why crossbows are now allowed in archery season.

By far, the majority of bow hunters use treestands. As far as experience I have killed over a dozen mature deer in a season more than once.

As far as critical......your the one being critical of archery season hunters.....I am just pointing out facts. Its not that hard to draw a bow wile up a tree or in a ground blind.....especially if we are talking modern compounds. [/quote]

If using a vertical bow is no more challenging, why was there a cry for full inclusion of the crossbow?..............Any HONEST hunter knows the truth.

Ya ought ta git yaself a soapbox.

I think only atlatl's with wooden shafted darts , wood throwers and rock points attached with sinew and pine pitch glue should be legal. If we do that though then the guys hunting with spears that have fire hardened points will feel infringed on and the guys using tree limb clubs will really be upset.

I guess it just boils down to the fact that deer need killing to keep deer populations healthy. Any body worried about what tool is being used needs to get a life.

First off to clarify I do not own nor maybe intend on owning a crossbow. I do own a couple of compounds.



So my question is why the cry to exclude? Any honest hunter knows the truth?

Agree. I don't understand why folks want to bash crossbows. Anything that brings people new youth into our sport should be a win for the most part. There are so many anti outdoorsman, guns, fur. Why not welcome it, even if you say its not for me.

Whats the difference between crossbows and todays super bows with sights, triggers, levels, stabilizers and slings that shoot over 300 fps? Todays bows aren't bows anyhow...so who cares of someone wants to use a crossbow....or a 30-06 in my opinion.

Excellent question, I can't wait to hear Grackle's answer.

Yes, we do know the truth. A crossbow is contrary to the whole reason a season for archers was put in place to begin with.
Why exclude hunters who want to sot from their pickup truck window or use a spot light?

We may be the last state to have a flintlock season. Every avid flintlock hunter I know is opposed to any talk of allowing percussion weapons or scopes in the season. There are some hunters who claim it's not fair that they don't get to take part in the season. Again, nobody is left out of the season except those who want to whine that flintlocks are too challenging. I hope the flinters never give in to the wanna-bees.

So In a nut shell you are saying that I shouldn't be able to shoot a deer with my cross bow because It's not sporting. Who died and gave you the right to tell me what I can use and not use.