Re: Illegal teacher strike
[Re: AntiGov]
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All you teachers , friends or family of teachers , or those who have borrowed the thought that " teachers are heroes" havent stated one positive effect this illegal strike will have or has had on students or tax payers . Will more money for teachers equal higher grad rates ? They turned down a $ 6,000.00 annual raise to hold out for $10,000.00 Is there a difference in benefit to the student and tax payer between 6k and 10k ? ADC , nice short bus jab ! lol ...................you must be one of those wife moochers BuckNE was talking about ....... 
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Re: Illegal teacher strike
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Most adults understand the purpose of a strike. I'm surprised you don't. Back to school for you. 
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Re: Illegal teacher strike
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Most adults understand the purpose of a strike. I'm surprised you don't. Back to school for you. Maybe your right but to some of us we refuse to be carried through life by unions and politicians.
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Re: Illegal teacher strike
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A couple of years ago , there was a move to consolidate a lot of smaller rural districts . The biggest opponent ? The teachers. Kinda leaves one scratching their head. Think about what all consolidating schools involves. Without much thought, off the top of my head here's a few of the big ones ... 1 -Busing students further. A kid that lives blocks from his school bused 30-45 min one way every day. Means parents have to get them ready earlier, takes an hour to hour and a half out of their schedule a day. 2 -Larger class sizes. Less individual time and less learning opportunity for the students. 3 -Teachers fired. (gee, wonder why they don't support that!) Fewer classrooms means fewer teachers needed. 4 -More kids = more competition. Meaning its going to be tougher to get into any extracurricular activities. Which build kids mentally and physically. I'm sure when my wife gets home from teaching (20+ years) in a small district, tonight, she could add exponentially to the list. Brother , not every little , bitty community needs a K-12 school . And a classroom of 25 kids won’t kill anyone. Rural schools can have their K-8 , everyone attends the same high school . I wish Oklahoma , and that’s who we’re discussing here , would follow Missouri’s example. BTW, the competition argument was awful . Life is a competition , that lesson might as well be learned early , too.
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Re: Illegal teacher strike
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School consolidation was the final nail in the coffin to kill small towns in my area. With some of the small town school rivalries dating way back it makes for some ugly adjustments for all involved. School rivalries were that big an issue ? Lmao !! Who attended those schools ? Crips and Bloods ? Wow .
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Re: Illegal teacher strike
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I think another major problem with our education system is the curriculum itself. What's being taught does not fit all kids.
I always said there is book smart and than there is hands on smart. Big difference between the two.
The hands on kids are the ones getting left behind and its not their fault.
Wind the schools back 50 years and teach the basics and bring back the hands on classes so many schools have gotten rid of.
Truth is the hands on training is where common sense is developed. Actually they are NOT being left behind like they used to be. This is what keeps many other kids from further advancing their education. You see when teachers have to deal with the slow book learners, instead of sending them out to other classes, they can not push the fast learners to their full potential. Same for the kids who act up. You can't just kick them out of school, or put them in special rooms, they are required to be included in the classrooms which not only makes the teacher's jobs harder but distracts and detracts from what the other kids can learn. Teaching these days is to prepare kids to be able to solve problems with methods as opposed to training them certain skills. This is the type education kids in other countries are learning that you all claim are so much better because they rank above the US. BUT at the same time they only test their good students, the ones that struggle are sent to other schools or just out of school. It's another example of making the polls fit your agenda.
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Re: Illegal teacher strike
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Most adults understand the purpose of a strike. I'm surprised you don't. Back to school for you. If the other 93% of us non union workers went on strike we would be fired ! What say you ?
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Re: Illegal teacher strike
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You anti-teachers can have this post now. I tried to teach, and just like most of you don't understand, some people are unteachable. lol Where is the like button?
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Re: Illegal teacher strike
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School consolidation was the final nail in the coffin to kill small towns in my area. With some of the small town school rivalries dating way back it makes for some ugly adjustments for all involved. School rivalries were that big an issue ? Lmao !! Who attended those schools ? Crips and Bloods ? Wow . Nope. The big problem was the parents that didn't want to forget about the past. My only argument on this thread was just that a lot of teachers are under appreciated by most and the education system is a mess. Not saying that I agree with the protesters. And in my area it was sad to see the schools close.
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Re: Illegal teacher strike
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ADC, quit with the “anti teacher” rhetoric ! We’re anti teachers asking for more money while NOT holding administrations accountable for stupid spending ! They , Oklahoma teachers are wanting raises by way of taxes without looking at the bigger picture.
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Re: Illegal teacher strike
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Stupid parents produce stupid kids. Stupid parents produce more kids than smart parents. Stupid parents don't hold their kids responsible for learning(or Behaving). The are more of these stupid kids in our schools with every generation. Add the break down in discipline, largely because stupid parents refuse to discipline their kids, or let the schools do it, so the education of the kids with good parents suffers. Finally, stupid parents take the easy and dishonest way out by blaming somebody else. ..........And here we are. And this would slow way down if the left was put in check.
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Re: Illegal teacher strike
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Be happy with the choice you have made. Did someone tell you life was fair? Pretty sure they teach this in public grade schools.
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