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Calexit plan..... #6225783
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/04/24/calexit-gets-go-ahead-to-start-collecting-signatures.html


So, hypothetically.......

Suppose IT DID HAPPEN....

What would happen to the Navy and Air Force bases in that State??? Would the new Nation of California suddenly seize the Aircraft and Naval Ships? The VA Hospitals in New California , would be operating in a new foreign Country. They would have to change hands , or close down. How would the citizen collect their retirement. Social Security would not be available to those that are not now collecting it.

Re: Calexit plan..... [Re: Canvasback2] #6225791
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Asked and answered, Ft Sumter.


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Re: Calexit plan..... [Re: Canvasback2] #6225796
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This go around the south gets to play radical republican. Bring on reconstruction!


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Re: Calexit plan..... [Re: Canvasback2] #6225805
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Why wouldn't social security or pensions not be available to those who earned it?


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: Calexit plan..... [Re: Canvasback2] #6225979
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Though we can all dream, it’ll never happen.


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Re: Calexit plan..... [Re: Canvasback2] #6225981
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Sessions said a month or so ago that it would not be allowed.

Those freaks would not last long in a fight.


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Re: Calexit plan..... [Re: Rye] #6225982
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Originally Posted By: Rye
Though we can all dream, it’ll never happen.


It might seeing how San Diego is joining trump on his lawsuit against California's sanctuary state law.

Re: Calexit plan..... [Re: Canvasback2] #6225983
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Getting rid of Cali would be a blessing for the West no passports/immigration should be granted after the separation! LOL


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Re: Calexit plan..... [Re: Marty] #6225985
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Originally Posted By: Marty
Sessions said a month or so ago that it would not be allowed.

Those freaks would not last long in a fight.



Watch your back Marty they might get you from behind! eek LOL


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Re: Calexit plan..... [Re: Steven 49er] #6225986
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Originally Posted By: Steven 49er
Why wouldn't social security or pensions not be available to those who earned it?


If California did split from the USA, anyone not currently paying into SS , would not in the future be paying into SS. As for workers currently paying into the system, I don't think Social Security has enabled into their rules what happens to a Worker's SS , if the State they are living in; ends up leaving the USA. That is something that would probably end up becoming a matter for the Supreme Court to figure out. Trouble is, I don't believe the Court would have any prior case law, to fall back on.

Re: Calexit plan..... [Re: Law Dog] #6225988
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Originally Posted By: Law Dog
Originally Posted By: Marty
Sessions said a month or so ago that it would not be allowed.

Those freaks would not last long in a fight.



Watch your back Marty they might get you from behind! eek LOL


My head is on a swivel...... laugh


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Re: Calexit plan..... [Re: Canvasback2] #6225991
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I'd sign the petition in a heartbeat if they need more signatures. I'm a registered voter just no in California. I say we just give them back to Mexico.

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I'd sign the petition in a heartbeat if they need more signatures. I'm a registered voter just no in California. I say we just give them back to Mexico.


I agree Seth! They're already half Mexican, might as well make it 100%


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Re: Calexit plan..... [Re: Canvasback2] #6226011
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The shame is the Northern half of the State is full of normal people the South is all fruits and nuts!


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They can do all they want to about doing it, except it will never be done, ain't worth the conversation !


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Re: Calexit plan..... [Re: Canvasback2] #6226020
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Originally Posted By: Canvasback2
Originally Posted By: Steven 49er
Why wouldn't social security or pensions not be available to those who earned it?


If California did split from the USA, anyone not currently paying into SS , would not in the future be paying into SS. As for workers currently paying into the system, I don't think Social Security has enabled into their rules what happens to a Worker's SS , if the State they are living in; ends up leaving the USA. That is something that would probably end up becoming a matter for the Supreme Court to figure out. Trouble is, I don't believe the Court would have any prior case law, to fall back on.


Why would it matter if the state left?

You can retire to a foreign country and still receive your social security as long as it's not NK or Cuba.


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: Calexit plan..... [Re: Canvasback2] #6226037
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You do have to be a citizen to receive the benefits I believe

Re: Calexit plan..... [Re: GritGuy] #6226040
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Originally Posted By: GritGuy
They can do all they want to about doing it, except it will never be done, ain't worth the conversation !
we can always dream

Re: Calexit plan..... [Re: Canvasback2] #6226048
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Look at Venezuela, Nicaragua, and hati if you want to see what happens if Cali goes on it's own.

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It would be a wonderful experiment , to witness the completed destruction of liberalism before our eyes . A perfect example of what is to come


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