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I did a great deal of the initial testing for the old con cuff when them, duffers and the egg trap were the main dp’s On the market.  Unless they where pinned down sold or completely covered with sticky/clay soil coon would just dig/pull them out and toss them to the side.  My best luck with them was when I pinned them into a tall tomato juice can and baited with a loud fish bait.  I caught 500 coon in January using 3 dozen traps one winter using the can method.   If you have any old trapper and predator caller mags around the coon cuff maker talked about my catch in his add.
 In all the years the coniber has been around I have never heard of a1000 plus coon catch using strictly them.  In the short history of the modern dp I know several guys that have caught 1000 plus coon using dp’s.  Like I said if the price of coon even fakes like there might be life there will be an avalanche of coon.
 
 Fun fact maybe 7-8 years ago when the coon market was pretty good, not even the crazy good years of 2013-14 I gave away 100 dozen duke dp’s to customers and made my money back probably 5x’s with coon that came back.
 
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 #6229364 04/29/18 10:55 AM
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I’m going to try burying some DPs this fall. My sense is coon will work the holes as they go dirt holes.  By then I should have photobucket figured out. 
 Last week I got a couple 2.25 inch opening DPs and will try them for mink. Rumor has it they worked well.
 
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The guy who made the coon cuff also made an enclosed mink trap like a bigger coon cuff.  I believe me and Gerald Schmidt where the only people to ever use them. They did work but if there are any coin around they will clean them out 
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Actually, these bigger DPs were made to see if they would work for fox, with a push-pull trigger. I’m waiting to hear if they’ve worked for that. 
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 So since the fresh dirt thing has come up.  Will a coon dig out a DP that has been buried In pocket set or how ever you bury It? If so with that DP laying on the ground will It still catch that coon. Or maybe a fox or coyote will dig It up then what.     Yes but for me most of the time it is red fox that digs them out. |  |  |  
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I’m going to try burying some DPs this fall. My sense is coon will work the holes as they go dirt holes.  By then I should have photobucket figured out. 
 Last week I got a couple 2.25 inch opening DPs and will try them for mink. Rumor has it they worked well.
 
 
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Got any pictures of the these bigger opening dps? Where can I get one for my dp collection? 
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I did a great deal of the initial testing for the old con cuff when them, duffers and the egg trap were the main dp’s On the market.  Unless they where pinned down sold or completely covered with sticky/clay soil coon would just dig/pull them out and toss them to the side.  My best luck with them was when I pinned them into a tall tomato juice can and baited with a loud fish bait.  I caught 500 coon in January using 3 dozen traps one winter using the can method.   If you have any old trapper and predator caller mags around the coon cuff maker talked about my catch in his add.
 In all the years the coniber has been around I have never heard of a1000 plus coon catch using strictly them.  In the short history of the modern dp I know several guys that have caught 1000 plus coon using dp’s.  Like I said if the price of coon even fakes like there might be life there will be an avalanche of coon.
 
 Fun fact maybe 7-8 years ago when the coon market was pretty good, not even the crazy good years of 2013-14 I gave away 100 dozen duke dp’s to customers and made my money back probably 5x’s with coon that came back.
 If we didn't have all these 24 hour BG checks In WI a 1000 coon In BGs per season wouldn't be a problem.  Dead and down Is the way to go. 
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Actually, these bigger DPs were made to see if they would work for fox, with a push-pull trigger. I’m waiting to hear if they’ve worked for that.  Should they still be called, or considered a dp if trying to catch fox? Just asking 
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I visited Neil Ziegman at his shop in Iowa. He’d made up a bunch of the bigger DPs to see what else they’d catch. You could contact him to see if he’ll send you some. 
 RPMartin, that’s a good point.
 
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Do some states have a size opening restriction on DPs? I can't find my WI regs but I thought we had a size opening restriction.I found them 1 3/4" In Dia
 
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I suppose burying the DP's has it's application given certain State regs. For me where I trap it would defeat the main purpose of the DP which is speed. I can put in a couple of DP's in a minute and be on my way down the road or river. Give me another minute or so and I can have them both on cable drowners. Like said above down and out is the way to go especially on public ground. 
 I doubt I could replicate my speed if I was burying them. I doubt I could match the speed of setting 1.5's blind on drowners burying them.
 
 Maybe with a little practice?
 
 It'll be something neat to try a bit on the line this season.
 
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Should they still be called, or considered a dp if trying to catch fox? Just asking Call 'em ETs (enclosed trigger) instead.  They never were "dog proof" just marketed that way. Absolute dog proofing is determined by bait choice. 
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Has anyone caught a canine In  DP? I caught a few cats but never a canine. You would think you would be able to catch grey fox In them.
 
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Has anyone caught a canine In  DP? I caught a few cats but never a canine. You would think you would be able to catch grey fox In them.
They weren't caught by the paw. 
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Has anyone caught a canine In  DP? I caught a few cats but never a canine. You would think you would be able to catch grey fox In them.
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