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#6259027 - 06/13/18 08:00 AM MB 650 trouble
Jamie Wargo Offline
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Registered: 11/16/17
Posts: 6
Loc: PA
Newb here. Purchased a doz mb650 this year. Iím having a hard time setting them. Used the trap setter sold on F&T - didnít seem to allow the jaws to open completely. Bought the one hand setters - they do a much better job. However the pan will not latch onto the setting mechanism. I did use Seldomís washer trick to take the play out of it. Also loosened the pan screw a bit, but not til free fall. Granted, Iím a little intimidated by the trap, but I canít see what Iím missing. The night latch on the pan will not reach the setting mechanism. I removed the washer that Seldom recommended but that didnít help. Any ideas?

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#6259053 - 06/13/18 08:42 AM Re: MB 650 trouble [Re: Jamie Wargo]
SNIPERBBB Offline
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Registered: 12/26/06
Posts: 8053
Loc: Rodney,Ohio
Make sure the "dog" is squared. Some of them aren't quite 90*

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#6259087 - 06/13/18 09:28 AM Re: MB 650 trouble [Re: Jamie Wargo]
Law Dog Offline
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Registered: 12/11/10
Posts: 14206
Loc: Central, SD
Call MTP they will get you straight!
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#6259187 - 06/13/18 12:16 PM Re: MB 650 trouble [Re: Jamie Wargo]
Jamie Wargo Offline
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Registered: 11/16/17
Posts: 6
Loc: PA
I think I may have got it. Wasnít getting the jaws to spread wide enough - even with the setters. So if I have three hands, and a one-hand setter, I should be good to go. I havenít dipped them or anything yet. Just sprayed some vinegar on them to rust em up a bit. Hopefully they loosen up a bit. Getting 3-3&1/2 pounds pan tension as is. ( with the pan bolt loose enough to free fall). Anyone else have trouble or do I need to get used to them?

And mjh, I bought a doz jrs at the same time. Wish I wouldíve bought a second set instead. May try to trade them.

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#6259189 - 06/13/18 12:23 PM Re: MB 650 trouble [Re: Jamie Wargo]
Matt28 Offline
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Registered: 11/13/13
Posts: 1456
Loc: Oklahoma
I have no trouble with mine.

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#6259196 - 06/13/18 12:31 PM Re: MB 650 trouble [Re: Jamie Wargo]
Law Dog Offline
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Registered: 12/11/10
Posts: 14206
Loc: Central, SD
Them one hand setters are the cats meow on my Sterlings must be a human effort issue is my guess. A guy needs to sit a look at what he's working with to begin to understand it, heck it took me some time to start using my setters myself! LOL
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#6259203 - 06/13/18 12:42 PM Re: MB 650 trouble [Re: Jamie Wargo]
traprjohn Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 7446
Loc: Central NC
Did you degrease them first?
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#6259295 - 06/13/18 03:46 PM Re: MB 650 trouble [Re: Jamie Wargo]
Osky Offline
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Registered: 12/09/13
Posts: 5623
Loc: Northern MN
It's obvious you have some of the old stock traps on the outdated recall. Check the serial number on each trap and see if it starts with o s. If they don't have serial numbers then you certainly do have the recalls.

Shame If so. You can sell them maybe for parts, and heck I could use some parts so this one time I could help you out for 11 no 12 dollars apiece but you'd have to pay the shipping. Happy to help.

Osky
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#6259447 - 06/13/18 09:30 PM Re: MB 650 trouble [Re: Jamie Wargo]
AJE Offline
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Registered: 01/22/16
Posts: 3369
Loc: WI - Wisconsin
Hard to say. I've found the 650's to be consistent and excellent.
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#6259481 - 06/13/18 10:14 PM Re: MB 650 trouble [Re: Jamie Wargo]
Taximan Offline
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Registered: 01/20/07
Posts: 3844
Loc: SW Montana
There is supposed to be a little tension on the jaws.When the setters are engaged,attach the safety hook to hold them.Then you have two hands to depress the jaws and engage the notch and pan.

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#6259539 - 06/14/18 12:26 AM Re: MB 650 trouble [Re: AJE]
Calvin Offline
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Registered: 09/12/07
Posts: 4528
Loc: South metro, MN
Originally Posted By: AJE
Hard to say. I've found the 650's to be consistent and excellent.


Agreed.

And I don't get the setter thing. Step on them.
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#6259590 - 06/14/18 05:09 AM Re: MB 650 trouble [Re: Jamie Wargo]
west river rogue Online   content
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Registered: 12/25/06
Posts: 3128
Loc: Philippines,,ohio
Tried a few when they first came out...wasn't a bit impressed...sold them.
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#6259597 - 06/14/18 05:18 AM Re: MB 650 trouble [Re: Jamie Wargo]
possum5676 Offline
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Registered: 01/02/07
Posts: 2077
Loc: kansas
I traded mine to Danny Clifton at the National at Hutchinson several years ago. Brand new. We were both happy.
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#6259767 - 06/14/18 10:30 AM Re: MB 650 trouble [Re: Jamie Wargo]
Taximan Offline
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Registered: 01/20/07
Posts: 3844
Loc: SW Montana
I tried them when they first came out and they are still catching stuff.The springs are still strong and non have needed repair.Tough traps.How long have they been on the market?15 years?

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#6259815 - 06/14/18 11:45 AM Re: MB 650 trouble [Re: Osky]
Jamie Wargo Offline
trapper

Registered: 11/16/17
Posts: 6
Loc: PA
Originally Posted By: Osky
It's obvious you have some of the old stock traps on the outdated recall. Check the serial number on each trap and see if it starts with o s. If they don't have serial numbers then you certainly do have the recalls.

Shame If so. You can sell them maybe for parts, and heck I could use some parts so this one time I could help you out for 11 no 12 dollars apiece but you'd have to pay the shipping. Happy to help.

Osky
Originally Posted By: Osky
It's obvious you have some of the old stock traps on the outdated recall. Check the serial number on each trap and see if it starts with o s. If they don't have serial numbers then you certainly do have the recalls.

Shame If so. You can sell them maybe for parts, and heck I could use some parts so this one time I could help you out for 11 no 12 dollars apiece but you'd have to pay the shipping. Happy to help.

Osky


Where would a serial number be? I donít see one.

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#6259872 - 06/14/18 01:35 PM Re: MB 650 trouble [Re: Jamie Wargo]
Taximan Offline
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Registered: 01/20/07
Posts: 3844
Loc: SW Montana
He's pulling your leg.

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#6260006 - 06/14/18 05:27 PM Re: MB 650 trouble [Re: Jamie Wargo]
danny clifton Online   content
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 11526
Loc: williamsburg ks
they still catch fur too possum.
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#6260163 - 06/14/18 09:32 PM Re: MB 650 trouble [Re: Jamie Wargo]
Redeyesheds Offline
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Registered: 04/01/18
Posts: 139
Loc: North Dakota USA
One heck of a coyote trap, I also set them for beaver you'll get use to setting them, I had to clean the night latch out a little on my last dozen of 650cast my IL I ordered came ready... The factory recall guy is BSn you, I raise the bid to 13$ if your taken him seriously...
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#6260317 - 06/15/18 07:31 AM Re: MB 650 trouble [Re: Jamie Wargo]
Jamie Wargo Offline
trapper

Registered: 11/16/17
Posts: 6
Loc: PA
Heís definitely paying the shipping after messing with me. Jk. I can get most of them set now. Think a few are just real stiff. Thought that the one hand setters would open them far enough to reach the night latch, but they donít.

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#6260343 - 06/15/18 08:26 AM Re: MB 650 trouble [Re: Jamie Wargo]
red mt Offline
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Registered: 10/15/14
Posts: 3073
Loc: montana
Does the tab or jaw hold down that is on the jaw rubbing or hitting the hitting something on the way down.
If so sand or buff that part and problem solved.
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