dried blood is a good ingredient for various types of lures.

The possibilities are endless, all the time and money it takes to create a real good food lure would amaze most. I've played a bit with this very subject, added this and that but still not as good as what the professionals formulate. So far I have the base right LOL but they still won't dig to China to get at it..

from my limitied experience I keep coming back to sun rendered oils of various animals. They tend to be stead fast in there reactions towards them. I tend to utilze most of there desired food groups. Be it oils or meat mass, or liquids of completely rotted down flesh. As g-bus says skys the limit,Only thing slowing a guy down is their imagination or creativity! But man is it smelly enertainment

In late July and August, coyote droppings are full of persimmon seeds.
The trees will abort half their fruit during extreme dry periods and the coyotes know this, eating the green fruit as it falls.

( Have you ever eaten a green persimmon ? I tried it...once)


Persimmon odor at times, can be as attractive to coyotes, as it is raccoon.
I once had a man buying persimmon scented insect repellent from me to dump down a dirt hole set.
When I heard of this, I said "You don't want the scented repellent, you just want the persimmon odor !"
I sold him the straight persimmon scent and he trapped a lot of coyotes using it.
We later became good friends and trapped together in Oklahoma, which had a good many persimmon groves in that region.

I like using persimmons but the stinking deer wont leave it alone! At one set I had a doe bed down by the set waiting for me to leave! LOL Dont think deer wont paw out a dirt hole! And yes I have bit into a green persimmon. NASTY!!

Boone I got a quart of ground slightly tainted afterbirth that is a year old that is still in a gooey paste so I went ahead and ground 2 1/2 more gallons this year. I would sent you some Boone if you wanted to play with it. I have a quart and a half of ground packrat heads that is about equal parts fur bones brains and meat from the rats I sent to Bob that I thought I'd play with. I also have a quart of aged deer testicles, gallon of cultured eggs, a gallon each of fresh ground and aged liver, a gallon of aged bobcat meat,and about a gallon of ground salt cured fish. I bought two black flash trail cameras to help me test some. Thank all of you guys for your input. For a new guy it's kind of hard to pick a direction to go with the side odors (like a couple of you stated there are many directions to go)but I got started this afternoon and made 3 samples to try.

Never enough of either it seems. The most important is the time. It is flying by.

Do you have any recommendations on how to use mare afterbirth I have some that’s a week old and not certain to preserve it or rot it

Man it seems like light years ago when I started this thread. I'm not Andy but 2 best ways I've found for working it up is either let it rot down to liquid or letting it halfway dry out so you can cut it and grind it them add preservatives right away. If flies get to it while drying just freeze it for a few days to kill all the eggs

I shot a late season doe and she was already carrying
I saved her ambiotic fluid and added a little glycerin so it wouldn't freeze
It caught coyotes and fox.

Cool thread

Yes sir since you have many more years experience now than when you started this thread, how would you now answer your original question? I for one would be curious to know. I am at a spot in my learning curve where your original posts shows you once were, care to share?

I'm pretty hesitant these days to give out particular ingredients, especially on an open forum as too many want all the answers without doing one single bit of testing. But I've had several people help me along the way so I'll throw some ideas out there. First I really don't try to make what I consider a food lure. If I want to go primarily food in the attraction I just go the bait route. With that said a lot of my lures have a food product as a base but so much of the attraction comes from secondary ingredients id consider the formulations more on the curiosity side, which category I really think most good lures fall into. But if there's one ingredient I'd share that I think is top shelf and is vastly under rated for coyotes it's sac oil. The amount you use is critical though.

I don't know why that question struck me today but it did. I been doing a ton of reading, and this old thread came up in my searching. I really didn't intend to put you on the spot, just found it curious after your comment on the time frame of it all so I asked.

I have had great luck with all things beaver for sure. Subtlety seems to always be best in this game, sac oil I find varies so much to my nose anyway, interesting.

No worries about you putting me on the spot. It's a forum, I don't have to answer if I don't want to.

Yes Sir, Thanks for the pro tip!
I have been pondering and researching uses for beaver sac oil, other than beaver castor lures.

Sac oil is not a great stand alone scent but if its going to rain several days in a row it wont wash off and makes for an ok flat set.

It will get better results 6 days a week and on Sunday as a stand alone going up again castor. That's my findings anyway, I've run the test at least 8 times and a good friend of mine has confirmed the same thing.

Kansas with it's coyote numbers gotta be a good place to test. I don't recall ever seeing a video of 13 dogs caught at one location in PA, but I have seen it filmed in Kansas.

Appreciate the sharing of that comparison as well. I feel the same way about my gardening efforts as you do about sharing info with those who don't test and evaluate for themselves, I rarely share extra produce with anyone who has the means to put a garden themselves, I sweat while they let me do the work.

Your correct I'm blessed as a guy who likes to play with coyotes to live in Kansas. You can gain a ton of information reasonably quick compared to some other areas. As far as 13 caught on one location I've seen 13 caught on one location in one night.

For a palatable bait, corn. I can not say anything with any absolute for anywhere else but here in New Jersey, but coyotes eat corn all year long at the deer feeders. In mid-winter, the coyotes will sit there and eat corn at the deer feeders. Canned sweet corn may have been used in a few baits as a secondary side note. For lures, canned claims. I have a process to liquefy them that I learned in making fishing scents for salt water fishing. Maybe some interest to coyotes, foxes, mink, and raccoons. My guess is that it may be in a few products by commercial producers.